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post #11 of 32
Not everyone can actually hit 5GHz with SB either, a lot of chips hit a wall at 4.7 - 4.8.
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But congrats, water cooling is now worth it for a change.

Water cooling was always worth it. Just because one line of chips was put out that could hit 5GHz on air, you now think all subsequent chips will do the same? The 2600K was an exception, not the rule. Ivy Bridge performs better clock for clock, so it is not a disappointment. If anything, it makes the science of overclocking and cooling even more exciting. When everything is given to you so easily, you don't respect what is given. I like fighting for every MHz I can get. It makes the "pursuit of performance" much more interesting and satisfying.
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post #13 of 32
Do you have the chip you are disappointed in on hand for testing?

I like mine just fine. I'm comparing it directly to my 2700K (which is roughly the same price).

I love how people go out of their way to comment negatively on something they don't own based on what they read on the internet biggrin.gif

I didn't have huge expectations (and why should we, Intel was very clear from the outset that this was a small step) and as such quite pleased with it's performance thus far.
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If you compare the Q9450 to the i7 920, the i7 was a new architecture so signficant performance improvements were expected.

If you compare the i7 2600K and the i7 920, the 2600K was not only a new architecture but was build on the 32nm node, vs 45nm for the i7 920. Even greater performance improvements in OC vs OC situations were to be expected.

With the i7 2700K vs 3770K comparison, its the same architecture, just with a process shrink and a few IPC enhancements. Great performance improvements are not to be expected.

Certain process shrinks go better than others. Some have delivered increases in overclocking headroom, others haven't. 90nm -> 65nm was not a good transition for Intel (the highest clocked P4s were on the 90nm node), while the 65nm -> 45nm transition was relatively good. The transition to the 22nm process has been difficult. This was clear last June when the only ESes being leaked were 1.8GHz

You can't expect great performance increases from every die shrink, and people forget this because Intel never did a 32nm die shrink of lynnfield, and the because for a long time die shrink of Nehalem was reserved for servers and extreme processors.
post #15 of 32
Well if one is upgrading from a previous platform (like say x58) would they be better off going SB over IB?
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But congrats, water cooling is now worth it for a change.
Water cooling was always worth it. Just because one line of chips was put out that could hit 5GHz on air, you now think all subsequent chips will do the same? The 2600K was an exception, not the rule. Ivy Bridge performs better clock for clock, so it is not a disappointment. If anything, it makes the science of overclocking and cooling even more exciting. When everything is given to you so easily, you don't respect what is given. I like fighting for every MHz I can get. It makes the "pursuit of performance" much more interesting and satisfying.

Well said!
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Originally Posted by racer86 View Post

5ghz on air is a pipe dream for most users 4.6-4.8 tops is more realistic

many many of the newer sandy batches were real good....went though about three ~5700 chips, which all did 5Ghz @ 1.4v

got a few more ~5600 and did 5Ghz @ 1.416


theres a lot more these days...
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post #18 of 32
At 22nm and beyond, I think we can all look forward to higher temperatures.

It's just physics... And it does not have to be a bad thing. The TJmax is higher for these chips, meaning you can run them safely at a higher temperatures. These chips do not like the higher voltages though, and wont be the overclocker sandy was. We may never see a chip like that again. The higher thermals do not mean a higher temperature output either. It can run hotter, but the heat being dissipated by the heatsink, and the air inside your case may be cooler. It is a different transistor, and a new set of specifications that will now be the norm.

For those of us that were waiting for the next best thing after SB, with a significant performance boost... will just have to wait for haswell... (or piledriver/steamroller! biggrin.gif )
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will just have to wait for haswell... (or piledriver/steamroller! biggrin.gif )

 

Those 2 dont even belong in the same sentence as Haswell

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post #20 of 32
For $20 i replaced my 2500K MAX OC 4.8Ghz to 3570K. Not a bad change. New toy to play with. For those that want 100% money justifications going from SB to IVY is not a good idea.
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