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yeah , i also have been playing the game for a few days ( retail version ) and have not seen any ad's as of yet. I dont see what the big deal is, its not really spyware that is collection data 24/7 on your machine. it only gets info while your playing, its not laggy i cant even tell its there. So there might be a few ads pop up on a billboard big deal. i see ads on this website all the time and yet no one is saying anything about that.. if the game was using adverts for graphics cards and psu's ect would that be ok? Where do you think the money goes from the companys that buy ad spots? Back into the game maker so they can make even better and bigger games.

I like the game, the gameplay is better than bf2. The graphics are better. And those who say its just a mod for bf2 is wrong. Granted EA should have stepped up and said from the get go that this was going to be in the game. If they did i dont think we would be having these conversations.
    
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Do you really know what they use for the "targeted advertising"? They direct ads to you that match the region of your IP...that's it....they don't go snooping through your cookies or anything. Please don'y tell me you've never seen this before. Several wedsites do this though JAVASCRIPT!!! Lets all boycott the internet while we are at it
1. Web sites are free.
2. Displaying ads based on the content of the web site, like this site does, does not use any information about me to do it. It uses information about the web site to do it.
3. Targeted ads on web sites based on IP addresses and such suck just as bad as this does. It's commonplace now, sure. But only because we all rolled over and let it happen. Back when it was first introduced, there was a huge furor over it. But over time, people forgot their anger and it became standard practice. That's exactly what's going to happen here; EA isn't going to stop doing it, we're all going to become numb to it, and in five years every game will have targeted ads. (And then they'll try something new that should piss everyone off, but half of us will actually defend it; and the cycle repeats.)

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I think EA made this so people TALK ABOUT THE GAME!!!
Possible, but I doubt it. There's no such thing as bad publicity, true. But I'm sure they are getting a nice revenue stream from the ads.

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So there might be a few ads pop up on a billboard big deal. i see ads on this website all the time and yet no one is saying anything about that.. if the game was using adverts for graphics cards and psu's ect would that be ok?
Again, this is a free website and the ads are targeted based on the content of the page, not who you are. Huge difference, and if you don't see it, I guess we have nothing more to talk about...

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Where do you think the money goes from the companys that buy ad spots? Back into the game maker so they can make even better and bigger games.
Yikes. Are you actually saying that EA is doing this for our benefit? That may be the first time I have ever seen altruism applied to EA.

No my friend, EA is the most money grubbing institution in all of gaming. They care little for the games themselves, they are all about money. The development houses creating the games that EA publishes are probably looking to create great games, or at least I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. But not the EA corporate machine, no way.
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I feel that there is something I should point out:

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Originally Posted by TweakGuides.com
EA has not yet actually activated the ads in BF2142
So to those who have played and then claimed that the ads are not at all intrusive, then this is why.

Anyway, I recommend you go and read Mr. Ghazi's article in its entirety; for me at least he really gets to what bothers me and other people about this in game advertising. The link's in my sig.
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post #24 of 30
Good article, it is definitely worth the time to go read it.
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I see adds on billboards in real life. I see adds on the way to college / work. I see adds on the TV. I see adds on the internet. I see adds in the form of Sponsership in Sport. I saw adds on billboards in Vietnam - The most un corporate place I've ever visited.
They're everywhere. But I still don't feel inclined to buy Pepsi, Lucky Strike or Castrol GTX engine oil. Growing up in this day and age, I learn to except, and even expect adds. So what if I paid for the game, I payed for my copy of I, Robot - The biggest advertisement for Converse I've ever seen. I also paid for my can of Coke, which itself had details of how to claim a free song from iTunes - More advertisement for Apple. I pay to access the internet. Adds everywhere.
My point is, ignore them.

At least you can shoot the billboards with walkers.
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Originally Posted by Kahuna513
I see adds on billboards in real life. I see adds on the way to college / work. I see adds on the TV. I see adds on the internet. I see adds in the form of Sponsership in Sport. I saw adds on billboards in Vietnam - The most un corporate place I've ever visited.
They're everywhere. But I still don't feel inclined to buy Pepsi, Lucky Strike or Castrol GTX engine oil.
Nobody is saying that they don't want the adds because it will make them spend more money. Few people are mad about the adds being in the way or anything. Most of the people with objections to this object for two reasons
1) EA is taking information from your computer, transmitting it to a third party, and allowing the third party to process this information with no notice prior to buying and opening the game (making it non-returnable)
2) EA is not using the revenue that they will be getting from the ads to benefit the user or aleviate the cost of the game. I see ads on TV - which is why cable is so cheap and the air channels are free. I see ads on OCN - so I don't have to subscribe to it. EA is not going this route - just using the extra money to pad their wallets

It feels like no two people on opposite sides of this are actually arguing against the other side. There's some crazy straw man-ing going on here
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actually, BF2142 is only $40 at Frys in today's paper, it might be a misprint though as it's still $50 online at outpost.
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post #29 of 30
despite the fact that it has 'spyware' in, i should think millions will still buy the game regardless, and i will be one of them

people boycotting the game wont make a difference to a big company like ea as the money they lose from that will be made up with more in game advertising in the future
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How many of us actually "watch" the commercials on TV
My now 14-year-old sister not only watches commercials on TV... She memorizes and sings the jingles, and LIKES them. She gets our attention to have us watch the ones she likes.

I jokingly said that I should rip the songs from the commercials and make her a mix CD and she loved the idea. I quickly told her that I'd not submit myself to such torture lol (after all, then she'd just sing them more).

Anyone want free advertising? Just send my your jingle, I'll play it for my sister, and 100s of people will hear it in the mid-west.

No, she's not mentally challenged lol.
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