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even at stock i would chose a phenom ii x4... only the smallest bit slower in games, much better at threaded stuff like editing, encoding and multitasking. maybe im basied cause a have an x4 and love. it. but i wouldnt go back on my amd over intel choice, not in this budget range
Again, @ stock it is not even better at multi threaded applications. And you are spending more on a chip that will give you no improvement in games.

im sorry, but you are misinformed.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=362

the i3 holds its own and is also a good proc, but look to the encoding, rendering video editing and other multithreaded benchies. the x4 crushes the i3. the i3 does the smallest bit better in most games, but not by a wide enough margin to make up for this, in my opinion. this is all stock, for the amd a high stock of 3.7 but stock with a free stock cooler. even so, 4ghz can easily be had on a good chip with a $20 212+, made up for by the fact amd boards are about 10-20 dollers cheaper (for sim. quality.)
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im sorry, but you are misinformed.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=362
the i3 holds its own and is also a good proc, but look to the encoding, rendering video editing and other multithreaded benchies. the x4 crushes the i3. the i3 does the smallest bit better in most games, but not by a wide enough margin to make up for this, in my opinion. this is all stock, for the amd a high stock of 3.7 but stock with a free stock cooler. even so, 4ghz can easily be had on a good chip with a $20 212+, made up for by the fact amd boards are about 10-20 dollers cheaper (for sim. quality.)

Ok, hmm, I thought it was... I was wrong, my bad. But either way. an i3 + cheap H61 board (you do not need a high quality mobo since no overclocking will be done) + stock cooler will cost much less than an PII x4 + good OCing mobo + 212 plus.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-apu-benchmark,3120-10.html
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im sorry, but you are misinformed.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=362
the i3 holds its own and is also a good proc, but look to the encoding, rendering video editing and other multithreaded benchies. the x4 crushes the i3. the i3 does the smallest bit better in most games, but not by a wide enough margin to make up for this, in my opinion. this is all stock, for the amd a high stock of 3.7 but stock with a free stock cooler. even so, 4ghz can easily be had on a good chip with a $20 212+, made up for by the fact amd boards are about 10-20 dollers cheaper (for sim. quality.)

Ok, hmm, I thought it was... I was wrong, my bad. But either way. an i3 + cheap H61 board (you do not need a high quality mobo since no overclocking will be done) + stock cooler will cost much less than an PII x4 + good OCing mobo + 212 plus.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-apu-benchmark,3120-10.html

you notice your tital says amd overclocker, right? you just seem to be an intel guy.

if you are set on intel, i wouldnt say get a cheap h61 board. after all, what if you want to upgrade and overclock a 2500k in the future?
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you notice your tital says amd overclocker, right? you just seem to be an intel guy.
if you are set on intel, i wouldnt say get a cheap h61 board. after all, what if you want to upgrade and overclock a 2500k in the future?

Upgradability takes away from the GPU budget, Grabbing a i3 at this time, you should not be upgrading to an i5, you should be upgrading to Haswell.

PS: My title says AMD overclocker because I have more fun Overclocking on AMD chips, I got my PII x4 965 to 4.0GHz before I sold it to my friend. tongue.gif

I found my old link
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you notice your tital says amd overclocker, right? you just seem to be an intel guy.
if you are set on intel, i wouldnt say get a cheap h61 board. after all, what if you want to upgrade and overclock a 2500k in the future?

Upgradability takes away from the GPU budget, Grabbing a i3 at this time, you should not be upgrading to an i5, you should be upgrading to Haswell.

PS: My title says AMD overclocker because I have more fun Overclocking on AMD chips, I got my PII x4 965 to 4.0GHz before I sold it to my friend. tongue.gif

I found my old link
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2033542

upgrade to haswell......and waist the board. this is one of the main reasons i chose amd when i was having this whole amd vs intel thing. i want to keep, or at least use in another build my board with what will then be current gen proc. just me thou.
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upgrade to haswell......and waist the board. this is one of the main reasons i chose amd when i was having this whole amd vs intel thing. i want to keep, or at least use in another build my board with what will then be current gen proc. just me thou.

From an economics point of view, this is a terrible strategy. I do not understand emotional attachment to motherboards and the persistent desire on OCN to keep the same motherboard at the expense of either money or performance.
    
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upgrade to haswell......and waist the board. this is one of the main reasons i chose amd when i was having this whole amd vs intel thing. i want to keep, or at least use in another build my board with what will then be current gen proc. just me thou.

From an economics point of view, this is a terrible strategy. I do not understand emotional attachment to motherboards and the persistent desire on OCN to keep the same motherboard at the expense of either money or performance.

how? if i bought an intel then in two years id have to buy another $100 board to upgrade. amd, keep the board, $100 cost avioded
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From an economics point of view, this is a terrible strategy. I do not understand emotional attachment to motherboards and the persistent desire on OCN to keep the same motherboard at the expense of either money or performance.

Economically it makes more sense to keep the board and upgrade the cpu... Just like it makes more sense to keep a z68 board if you upgrade from SB to IB instead of selling it at a loss and buying a z77 board.
 
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how? if i bought an intel then in two years id have to buy another $100 board to upgrade. amd, keep the board, $100 cost avioded
And have less performance. ph34r-smiley.gif
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Economically it makes more sense to keep the board and upgrade the cpu... Just like it makes more sense to keep a z68 board if you upgrade from SB to IB instead of selling it at a loss and buying a z77 board.

Economically it makes more sense to not upgrade from sandy to ivy... It gives minimal benefits. rolleyes.gif
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Economically it makes more sense to not upgrade from sandy to ivy... It gives minimal benefits. rolleyes.gif

Well ok, that is true rolleyes.gif

How bout we pretend the person upgraded from a 2500k to a 3770k and needed the extra threads tongue.gif
 
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