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Originally Posted by c|net 
Google has released a full version of the FCC's report on the company's controversial gathering of personal data with Street View cars.

The move, reported by the Los Angeles Times, comes about a week after a privacy group filed a Freedom of Information Act request to see the full report, and a short time after the FCC released a heavily redacted version, saying Google's data collection had not broken the law but that the commission would impose a $25,000 fine on the company for "deliberately impeding and delaying" its probe.


Main Article: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57423691-83/google-releases-full-fcc-report-on-street-view-probe/?tag=txt;title



My take: How does this happen?!
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Originally Posted by c|net: Justice Department closes probe into Google Street View 
The cars were supposed to collect just the locations of Wi-Fi access points but inadvertently also collected e-mail and text messages, passwords, Internet-usage history, and other data from unsecured wireless networks for four years.
Auxiliary quoted Article:http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57422652-83/justice-department-closes-probe-into-google-street-view/?tag=txt;title

That's wardriving by my book (and apparently the FCC's). Trying to find hotspots is one thing, but how do you collect all that other data "inadvertently"?
Edited by MediaRocker - 5/1/12 at 5:16am
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Trying to find hotspots is one thing, but how do you collect all that other data "inadvertently"?

I agree, it seems highly intentional. I wish the doc wasn't so heavily redacted mad.gif
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So they gathered data from unsecure networks? Most technology logs everything you do anymore, but why are people in such an uproar over unencrypted network analysis/collection? Everything is monitored by NSA as it is.

I get the desire to maintain privacy, but I don't understand using unsecure means of transmitting that data.


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Engineer Doe seems to have had other plans huh? Or is this something that came from the top? What's up with all the black out, it's like they're the DOD.
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This just in: Googles reaction to the fine:
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So they gathered data from unsecure networks? Most technology logs everything you do anymore, but why are people in such an uproar over unencrypted network analysis/collection? Everything is monitored by NSA as it is.

I get the desire to maintain privacy, but I don't understand using unsecure means of transmitting that data.


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Exactly. It is YOUR responsibility to secure your wireless network at home. If someone uses your connection to download illegal content or send out threats over the internet, guess whose door the FBI/police are knocking on? Yours. They won't care if your wireless network was open and anyone could have jumped on it. The IP address belongs to you as your ISP's customer. Maybe if you can prove via router tables that there was traffic from a MAC address that didn't belong to you at the time of the internet crime you would be ok, but you can usually be held responsible, so why would it be any different in this case? Plain and simple: if you don't want your sensitive information compromised, don't make it available to be compromised in the first place. I have little to no empathy/pity for people who put THEMSELVES in idiotic situations that harm them, to then cry about it. This applies to everything in life, I'm not even just jumping in Google's favor here.

"Y I have to spend so much to fix Mac?!" sozo.gif Well, you decided to buy a Mac. People charge more to repair them. Deal with it.
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I don't get this, people are crying because people didn't secure their router with a password and information got taken on accident?

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I don't get this, people are crying because people didn't secure their router with a password and information got taken on accident?

The real question here... is how do you log all that data if you were just looking for Wifi Hotspots?

I understand the need for closing your open hotspot, and how stupid it is for people to be upset about it because they left their network open and little billy next door could do the same thing.... but my point is in how do you collect all that data by noting hotspots? There had to have been a packet sniffer on board... which is doing more than noting where a WiFi hotspot is... maybe I'm wrong if someone would care to enlighten me.
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The real question here... is how do you log all that data if you were just looking for Wifi Hotspots?
I understand the need for closing your open hotspot, and how stupid it is for people to be upset about it because they left their network open and little billy next door could do the same thing.... but my point is in how do you collect all that data by noting hotspots? There had to have been a packet sniffer on board... which is doing more than noting where a WiFi hotspot is... maybe I'm wrong if someone would care to enlighten me.

No you're right on track. There's a big difference between verifying existence of hotspots and the actual act of wardriving.


You don't just accidentally pull out the packet sniffer... lol.

Whether the network is open or not isn't really the question, it's why were they systematically doing this?
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