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post #31 of 45
hurry up and release this darn card already!!!!
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I like all the innovative features of this card.


Alex if you see this can you comment on Power Edition HD7850 or Power Edition GTX 670?
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Very nice.
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post #34 of 45
looks as good as 7970 Lightning, especailly in a blue color surrounded case
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@DarkBlade6
Of course a overclocked Lighting would beat a Ref oc-ed HD 7950. Most of the Ref's are just 50-100 oc.. It's becomes moot point any way. Until you take that same HD 7950 and over clock it also. Then you can make a True comparison.


@msiAlex
I completely understand all of that and I know the cards cheaper because they lowered there prices on them and that you have no control over it.

But I saying IF your Product in up selling for the same price of a higher model thats the same exact price. No matter what features you guys added the card to make it different then any other HD 7870s. It still wouldn't make sense, to get it over the HD7950 at the same price. Unless The HD7950 model at the same price is one that doesn't overclock as good as the other HD7950s. Then I would see why one would pick yours over it.
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still not released yet?
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Originally Posted by PureBlackFire View Post

still not released yet?

MSI has been slow many of their new cards.

Still waiting to be seen in stores.


Hawk R7870
Power Edition GTX 670
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MSI is being ridiculous. show the card, give a bunch to reviewers, don't launch it for another month plus. great plan.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkBlade6 View Post

You know .. 7870 vs 7950 at stock clock, the 7950 barely win by few % in most bench, so since this card can overclock like a champ , meh im pretty sure its gonna win against a ref overclocked 7950.

You know.... 7950 has lots more memory, lots more memory bandwidth, and lots more cores in the GPU itself. At the same price (or damn close price points), people generally would buy the more expensive card.
Quote:
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I like all the innovative features of this card.
Alex if you see this can you comment on Power Edition HD7850 or Power Edition GTX 670?

What comment do you want?

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@msiAlex
I completely understand all of that and I know the cards cheaper because they lowered there prices on them and that you have no control over it.
But I saying IF your Product in up selling for the same price of a higher model thats the same exact price. No matter what features you guys added the card to make it different then any other HD 7870s. It still wouldn't make sense, to get it over the HD7950 at the same price. Unless The HD7950 model at the same price is one that doesn't overclock as good as the other HD7950s. Then I would see why one would pick yours over it.

That's what I just said before: the R7870 Hawk, due to pricing of the HD7870 GPU, is priced too close to a reference HD7950. Thus, no matter what features we add, people ultimately ONLY see the price delta of a 7870 Hawk vs a 7950 reference card, and conclude that the 7870 is a terrible buy.
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MSI is being ridiculous. show the card, give a bunch to reviewers, don't launch it for another month plus. great plan.

It's been brought in to North America in small quantities, but we're kind of waiting for a reason. I wish I could tell you but there's other major forces in the marketplace that are making things muddy.

BUT, if you must know, there was a large shipment that came in this week. Early next week you'll see it.

Just don't complain about the price, because it's not our fault AMD priced the cards so crappy.
    
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MSI is being ridiculous. show the card, give a bunch to reviewers, don't launch it for another month plus. great plan.

It's been brought in to North America in small quantities, but we're kind of waiting for a reason. I wish I could tell you but there's other major forces in the marketplace that are making things muddy.

BUT, if you must know, there was a large shipment that came in this week. Early next week you'll see it.

Just don't complain about the price, because it's not our fault AMD priced the cards so crappy.

I appreciate the response. I know AMD screwed the pricing so there's no knock against MSI there. As far as the release, it sucks that you guys are being held up on some end. This was supposed to be my new card, but I've gone another route. And the day I buy this 670 I see the MSI power edition announced. I just wanted that TFIV cooler in black/blue to go with my build. I'm guessing SonDa5 wants to know when these cards are coming out.
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