Originally Posted by DarkBlade6
You know .. 7870 vs 7950 at stock clock, the 7950 barely win by few % in most bench, so since this card can overclock like a champ , meh im pretty sure its gonna win against a ref overclocked 7950.
You know.... 7950 has lots more memory, lots more memory bandwidth, and lots more cores in the GPU itself. At the same price (or damn close price points), people generally would buy the more expensive card.
Originally Posted by SonDa5
I like all the innovative features of this card.
Alex if you see this can you comment on Power Edition HD7850 or Power Edition GTX 670?
What comment do you want?
Originally Posted by admflameberg
I completely understand all of that and I know the cards cheaper because they lowered there prices on them and that you have no control over it.
But I saying IF your Product in up selling for the same price of a higher model thats the same exact price. No matter what features you guys added the card to make it different then any other HD 7870s. It still wouldn't make sense, to get it over the HD7950 at the same price. Unless The HD7950 model at the same price is one that doesn't overclock as good as the other HD7950s. Then I would see why one would pick yours over it.
That's what I just said before: the R7870 Hawk, due to pricing of the HD7870 GPU, is priced too close to a reference HD7950. Thus, no matter what features we add, people ultimately ONLY see the price delta of a 7870 Hawk vs a 7950 reference card, and conclude that the 7870 is a terrible buy.
Originally Posted by PureBlackFire
MSI is being ridiculous. show the card, give a bunch to reviewers, don't launch it for another month plus. great plan.
It's been brought in to North America in small quantities, but we're kind of waiting for a reason. I wish I could tell you but there's other major forces in the marketplace that are making things muddy.
BUT, if you must know, there was a large shipment that came in this week. Early next week you'll see it.
Just don't complain about the price, because it's not our fault AMD priced the cards so crappy.