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Apologies for the confusion.
Edited by RoneryPanda - 8/13/12 at 5:56pm
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Check out this sub-$500 build XD put together a few days ago. Really Impressive

Just change his $90 ASRock 970 to Newegg's $80 ASRock 970
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Check this out. It's kinda hard to understand at first glance, but once you look at it for a second you can deceifer it.

http://www.hardware-revolution.com/best-budget-gaming-pc/

Tier Green seems to be right at your budget limit.
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My sig rig was $411 at the time of purchase (August 2011). It's probably even cheaper now, and maxes everything at my resolution (1440x900). I would try to build off of this, but definitely get something beefier in the GPU department because I sure wish I did. It would make upgrading resolutions a lot easier.
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$400 budget (Click to show)
PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Celeron G530 2.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($47.18 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H61M-DS2 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($22.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Apex SK-393-C ATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W ATX12V Power Supply ($37.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $372.12
You may even want to up your Ram to 8GB since you only have 2 ram slots on H61 boards.
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$400 budget (Click to show)
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CPU: Intel Celeron G530 2.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($47.18 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H61M-DS2 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($22.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Apex SK-393-C ATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W ATX12V Power Supply ($37.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $372.12
You may even want to up your Ram to 8GB since you only have 2 ram slots on H61 boards.
That's a good build, OP. Go with that. If you have cash to spare, I recommend and SSD. You'll want one in the future, and having your media on a separate drive from your OS is great.

Or upgrade that CPU to an i3-2100/2120. Fantastic CPU, I'm keeping it until the next gen Intel CPUs hit the market. (After Ivy)
Edited by xJavontax - 5/1/12 at 1:06pm
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Thank you all for the quick replies.
I noticed most of yall suggest AMD (since it's an AMD forum) but all have Intel on your computer setups.
Is it worth getting intel (i3 probably as good as I can go in my budget) if my budget permits?
I really have no clue what the difference is.
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I'm not nearly as experienced when it comes to CPUs as a lot of OCN forum members, but I've had first hand experience with all AMD/Intel CPUs in this price range.

At your budget, your best bet for Intel would be an i3-2100/2120. To match that performance/price on AMD, you could go with an AMD Phenom II X4 BE. As you can see, the Intel CPU is a dual core and the AMD CPU is a quad core. You'll inevitably want to upgrade in the future, so it would only make sense to go with the Intel CPU since it's dual core performance is on par with AMD's quad core. Once you upgrade to any Intel quad core from your dual core, you'll smoke most AMD CPUs when it comes to performance (and power consumption.)

I personally recommend the Intel CPU. As stated above, it's performance is on-par with the AMD CPU, and the Intel is only a dual core. When you decide to bite the bullet and go quad core, you'll be glad you went for an Intel CPU.

Benchmarks

Also, I believe the i3-2100 is multi-threaded. If I'm correct, that means that it gives you two "virtual cores" that allow your CPU to act as a quad core. I'm not 100% sure, but that sounds right.
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Originally Posted by RoneryPanda View Post

Thank you all for the quick replies.
I noticed most of yall suggest AMD (since it's an AMD forum) but all have Intel on your computer setups.
Is it worth getting intel (i3 probably as good as I can go in my budget) if my budget permits?
I really have no clue what the difference is.

It depends on your purpose, ultimately. Intel has better per-core performance. AMD has cheaper quad-cores. So... how does this matter to you?

Well most games can only utilize 2 cores and none can utilize more than 4. So generally Intel is better, even for budget builds. Unless you get even a tad lower on budget than you and can't afford a discrete video card. Then AMD's better integrated graphics come into play.

Now, a little depends on what games you like to play. The Intel true dual-cores will still do fine for most games. For instance, even StarCraft 2, a game where performance depends heavily on a fast processor, runs great on the Intel Pentiums - it can only utilize 2 dual cores. Games which are programmed to be able to use up to 4 cores do better on an i3 (dual-core with 2 more threads from hyperthreading) than the Pentiums, but the pentiums will still run them fairly well and there are surprisingly few of these. Now you might think an AMD quad-core would do better in those games than the i3... but while they do fine, the superior per-core performance of the i3 makes them equal... and the i3 is cheaper. (btw, I suggest spending a little more for an Intel Pentium instead of Celeron)

For a computer whose main purpose is gaming, I'd go with what Ironman recommended, though I'd also make these changes

CPU upgrade to a Pentium rather than Celeron (+$22)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116399

Power supply to an Antec Neo Eco 450c (-$8)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60491&vpn=NEO%2DECO450C&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1058
The PSU suggested by Ironman is a good deal and would work well... this is just a bit better deal because it's cheaper.

If you wanted 8GB of RAM (four would work), I'll mention this pretty good special, which may end soon (+$7)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313086
make sure to input the promo code

Ironman's build is quite good though. So if you bought straight what he recommended, I don't think you'd be disappointed.
    
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Check out this sub-$500 build XD put together a few days ago. Really Impressive

Hm.... except for the K58 (too bad the deal is gone as I owned that case and it was awesome :C but you could get the NZXT Source 210 and still get a great case for $40 shipped however),  the Superbiiz promo code (it is now HOOPS for $10 off any order >$85), and the mobo (it now costs $10 less shipped on Newegg which outweighs the lost $10 in Superbiiz promo codes) those deals are all still valid o_O

 

2100 still can't OC.... consider that

Noting the "May also do some recording, video editing, etc." I recommend in favour of the AMD options for improved multitasking and performance for these other tasks.

 

The Athlon II x4 631 is a $70 socket FM1 quad core with nice overclocking ability (32nm) and about equivalent IPC to old Deneb parts; that might be a good option here - just make sure your FM1 motherboard has VRM cooling.


Edited by xd_1771 - 5/1/12 at 4:40pm
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