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Didn't know that discrete cards were around anymore? Isn't discrete the same thing as dedicated, expect that discrete uses the systems RAM?
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LOL...

 

 

Financial Analyst... <-- what do they know about the discrete markets, or even CPU technology..?

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Originally Posted by cloudbyday View Post

Didn't know that discrete cards were around anymore? Isn't discrete the same thing as dedicated, expect that discrete uses the systems RAM?

Discrete card is a dedicated card. A GPU seperate from the rest of the system.
    
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Just marketing. Nothing has changed, other than Intel being forced to offer better graphics since AMD has made integrated graphics usable first. The amout of dedicated GPUs will not change much,as the same people that wanted it before still want it now. They would have to improve IGP performance probably another 30% before the market shares would change much.
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Honestly how would you have any idea how well the PC gaming market is doing? All we know for sure is it seems like DD sales are good and retail sales have decreased more then 50% in the last couple years. Reality is that discrete GPU sales probabally are dropping especially if analalysts who are privy to this info are saying it.
Again I'm not calling doom and gloom or anything like that all I'm saying is to think that iGPU sales aren't going to eat into the discrete market is not being realistic.

I know how well the PC/gaming market is doing by understand the basics of a free market. Games continue to be made, prices continue to increase, and more and more people are becoming aware of what gaming is. Like I said previously, the integrated graphics will solve a lot of average PC users needs, but it is ridiculous to say that the iGPU 'killed' discrete graphics. It just doesn't make any sense.
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OCN is where it seems more users have higher end discrete graphics cards. I would surmise that most PC gamers barely have graphics cards that can run Dota2 or LoL.
Intel HD 4000 series iGPUs can drive 3 displays. Most people do not need more displays than that unless they work in financials/trading.

While there's not many gamers with GTX 690s, etc who aren't on OCN, XS or the like most gamers I've seen tend to run stuff in the real mid-range. Not the high-mid range. (ie. HD6670, HD6770, GTS 550, etc)

Now, as for APUs killing discrete cards...Going to happen eventually, but not yet. Most computers I see come with a HD6400 or similar, only the cheapest don't. Ultrabooks will help but for the most part, the AU$700+ market is dominated by discrete. Even when you factor in Llano/Trinity.
    
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This just in, the 2013 compact car lineup will kill the sports car since it is cheaper and does what the average person needs it to.
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nothing will replace discrete gpu's.. anyone that cares about graphics or gameplay wouldn't let that happen. integrated graphics are for people who know nothing about computers, or people who cant afford it.
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post #69 of 103
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^True. Plus, 95 percent of users who buy computers with 3rd-gen i5/i7 probably are gamers anyway.

Definitely wrong. With marketing at stores like bestbuy that say you need an i5 to multitask microsoft office, desktops with those chips sell plenty
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post #70 of 103
Its dedicated not discrete!

Discrete implies small and to go unseen, dedicated means with the sole purpose of doing a particular task.
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