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Hello everyone,

I've been looking to upgrade my current rig for a while. It's getting a bit long in the tooth nowadays, having issues even with console ports. The new nvidia's and ivy's are out and I currently have a good opportunity lined up to purchase some new hardware. Several people on these boards are opting for similar new systems, but with so much cash at stake I, frankly, don't have the cohones to place an order without consulting some of the more informed members here.
I will most likely keep this new setup for quite some time, so i reckoned I would spend a bit more. The station will be used for work stuff (pretty much everything in the Adobe creative suite) and gaming on a 24" in 1920x1200. I'm also considering a two monitor setup. There wont be any ridiculous overclocking going on, but I would definitely like to max out the CPU and GFX while still keeping noise levels tolerable. Also, I'm from Europe.

Heres what I've come up with so far:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7yUr

  • Starting at the top, with the CPU cooler - is the H100 too much? I've seen some more experienced members with the same processor opting for the H80.
  • Regarding the Samsung 30nm RAM, is it still a viable choice for this system even if I don't plan on OC'ing it? Should I stick with the 8gig kit or go for 16gigs? I assume two sticks in either case would be the right choice?
  • I opted for the SAMSUNG 830 Series 128gb SSD. A worthwhile upgrade over the popular Crucial M4?
  • For storage a friend suggested I go for Raid 0 with two slower rpm disks. Raid 0 seems fine to me, but with two 7200rpm disks. Is the Samsung Spinpoint F3 a solid choice?
  • The nvidias are actually the OC'ed, non reference ones, but I couldn't find them on pcpartpicker
  • The Antec P280 appears to be a solid case which will fit the H100 top radiator and has some sound dampening to boot. However, I would think it needs two more front mounted fans. Which fans are currently considered to be of quality? Actually, is the case a sound choice in the first place?
  • Lastly, I was told that with this kind of firepower I would be wise to get a 120Hz monitor. Would I really notice the change?

Thanks in advance for any help and advice!
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Cooling: A high end air cooling system will outperform a H80,.. and be on par with a H100. The problem with the H100 is it doesn't fit in most cases, so do some measuring to make sure it fits. I would say go liquid if you want something quiet,...but i have heard the H100 is loud. Honestly, unless your doing a custom loop liquid cooling system, i would try to twist your arm into something like a Phanteks PH-TC14PE. If your really sold on water cooling, get the H100.

RAM: Two stick is typically a better idea because it will give you room to upgrade. 8Gb or 16Gb,...well this is a very hotly debated subject here at OCN ,and everyone will tell you something different. In my opinion, If you run virtual machines, get 16Gb. For games, get 8Gb.

SSD: The last review i read, the Samsung 830 series was outperforming the M4. All these "high end" SSD's are SO close in performance , it's like splitting hairs. Both the Samsung and the M4 are excellet choices in my opinion.

HDD: Yes, right now the Samsung Spinpoint F3, and the WD Black are the two fastest 7,200 RPM HDD's. Last i checked, the Samsung F3 was faster AND cheaper.

GPU: Excellent choice.

Case: Not really sold on the Antec P280, and not sure if the H100 will fit. Not even sure where i would put a H100 in that case. Just putting in my 2 cents, a HAF 942, HAF X, or Antec DF-85 is a much better case and will easily fit a H100....or any other computer part on the face of the earth with a ton of room to spare. Just, it's double the price of your current case. I feel a NZXT Phantom, Corsair Obsidian Series 650D, or a Xigmatek Elysium would all be solid choices as well...but these cases are all very expensive.

Sorry, my taste in cases is very oooooo-shiny!

For "what fans are considered quality"...is a hard question. Some people define quality by the amount of air a fan moves, others are looking for something silent. I have been really impressed with Scythe fans as of late.

Monitor: Some people claim to notice a difference with a 120Hz monitor. Some people see no difference. I would go down to a store like best buy or walmart and physically look at a 120Hz monitor (don't buy anything, lol) and see for yourself if you can notice the difference.
Edited by crimsontears809739 - 5/1/12 at 5:57pm
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List looks nice. You have a great selection there!

CPU cooler: The H100 is great. If you like something that installs easy and gives you performance, it's a great choice. If you want better performance per $ you can also look at the XSPC Rasa custom water cooling loops which I believe are around the same price as an H100, yet give you the cooling power as a custom water cooling loop.

Ram: I haven't been keeping up on the best deals for ram, but shop around on Newegg as a remember G. Skill was getting really cheap. Since you said you are using the Adobe Creative Suite, I assume you are doing a good amount of video editing. 16GB will probably help you a lot more than 8GB as I find when editing clips (especially higher res like 4k) my 6GB of ram gets consumed very quickly. You can always just get 8GB and uppgrade if you don't think it's enough though.

SSD: You are right, the Samsung will be better than the M4, but it's not by much as it's certainly not noticeable in real world performance with things like loading games, and loading up Creative Suite. M4 is really cheap right now and some places it can be found for $40 cheaper than what you have on that list.

HDD's: Raid 0 is good, although I would definitely back it up since you have some expensive software, and because raid 0 doubles failure rate. As for the choice of HDD, 7200rpm will be the best, although I would not pick the F3's. F3's used to be awesome, but Seagate bought Samsung's HDD business, and now the F3's 1TB's are the exact same thing as the Seagate 1TB's which aren't as good quality. I would recommend getting Western Digital 1TB Blacks which are pricier but are very reliable and fast.

GPU: Great choice. I don't know if you need that much power for 1920x1200 for gaming and Adobe Suite stuff though. Could probably look around at the OCN Marketplace for some 580's which will suite your needs and be around $300 each. Having more power is always nice though and 680's would still be great! smile.gif

Case Fans: Gentile Typhoons are a popular choice as they are quiet, move a lot of air, and come in many different CFM/Noise ratios. I myself bought some Gelid 120mm PWM fans which I love as they are white (which looks cool biggrin.gif), has PWM, are really quiet, and move a large amount of air.

Monitor: So I don't know if you are new to the monitor market, but it is a very big debate of if 120hz is better, IPS is better, or a high res panel (like 2560x1440/1600) is better. My opinion is to go with the higher res panel (and higher res panels happen to usually be IPS). Since you are doing Photoshop, the IPS will help color correctness a lot, and the extra pixels help a lot when trying to edit multiple things on the screen at once. Plus, you can get a Catleap or another Korean high res panel for about $340 now, and some people even report getting them on best offer for $300! These panels are also comparable to the Apple Cinema and Dell U2711 displays. I have seen 120hz and I cannot see a difference in fast paced shooters like BF3. It's really up to each person, so I would go look at one and see if you can see a difference from 60hz.

Everything else looks good! Good luck with the build! biggrin.gif
Edited by Willanhanyard - 5/1/12 at 11:21pm
    
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Thanks to both of you for your input. Rep+
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Check this thread to see if the H100 will fit. I don't see your case mentioned, but if you ever decide to change the case, its not a bad place to start
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