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no.

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no.

It is actually. It's scales equally with cores and clock speed. A 12core at 1ghz would roughly equal a 1core cpu at 12ghz.
 
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It is actually. It's scales equally with cores and clock speed. A 12core at 1ghz would roughly equal a 1core cpu at 12ghz.

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these threads are such a joke you guys dont realize that gamers and enthusiasts make up a very very small part of profits for intel and amd. AMD is raking in the cash with their APUs and intel is no where to be found. Ill give most people bulldozer didnt live up to expectations but that dosent mean AMD is failing. Id love to see a great enthusiast chip from them but i doubt we will see it again. The money is in mobile devices and that is where amd is focusing their money.
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:lachen.gif: o woww.. :lachen.gif:

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It is actually. It's scales equally with cores and clock speed. A 12core at 1ghz would roughly equal a 1core cpu at 12ghz.

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I realize it's pointless arguing, but assuming you can utilize all cores, the scaling factor by adding cores is typically in the 80-90% range. Proof: Cinebench R11.5 single-threaded score for 1100T = 1.11, multi-threaded = 5.9. 1.11 * 6 = 6.66. 5.9 / 6.66 = 88.5% scaling, for SIX cores. So, how much clockspeed would it take a single 1100T core to match all 6 at 3.3ghz? Well, 1 core at 88.5% * 3.3ghz * 6 = 17.52ghz single-core.

Cores SCALE, not at 100%. Don't bite someone's head off because they're off by 10%.

So, some simple reasoning...

Take a Core 2 Duo, at perhaps 3ghz. OC it to heck, maybe you hit 4ghz and now you're in the 125W + power consumption range. Compare the 4ghz C2D to a Core 2 Quad at 3ghz - which one has more total performance? And uses less power? To both, the Core 2 Quad.

EDIT: Forgot the Anandtech link as a reference for 1100T's Cinebench scores. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review-amd-fx8150-tested/7
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these threads are such a joke you guys dont realize that gamers and enthusiasts make up a very very small part of profits for intel and amd. AMD is raking in the cash with their APUs and intel is no where to be found. Ill give most people bulldozer didnt live up to expectations but that dosent mean AMD is failing. Id love to see a great enthusiast chip from them but i doubt we will see it again. The money is in mobile devices and that is where amd is focusing their money.
everyone said this after phenom came out... But then phenom ii came and whoped intel at many price points. Have faith! Wait for piledriver/steamroller/excavator.... Thou your right about the apus, really our gaming enthuisist market means almost nothing to amd... The real money is in selling c-50s to grandma.
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I realize it's pointless arguing, but assuming you can utilize all cores, the scaling factor by adding cores is typically in the 80-90% range. So, some simple reasoning...
Take a Core 2 Duo, at perhaps 3ghz. OC it to heck, maybe you hit 4ghz and now you're in the 125W + power consumption range. Compare the 4ghz C2D to a Core 2 Quad at 3ghz - which one has more total performance? And uses less power? To both, the Core 2 Quad.

we're talking about power consumption now?

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