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what does this prove?
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post #62 of 70
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everyone said this after phenom came out... But then phenom ii came and whoped intel at many price points. Have faith! Wait for piledriver/steamroller/excavator.... Thou your right about the apus, really our gaming enthuisist market means almost nothing to amd... The real money is in selling c-50s to grandma.

Dont get me wrong id love to see it happen i enjoyed my 8120 while i had it but thats just not where the money is at. I mean intel integrated graphics arnt even fully supported by games. alot of people only play a few games and amd has mobile market wrapped up right now
    
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we're talking about power consumption now?
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And this is what's called "Completely missing the point". What I said applies to any sort of CPU architecture from either brand. If you enjoy pulling up Bulldozer power consumption graphs, continue! We've all seen them, you're wasting your time to be frank.
 
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Budget wise I believe they compete very well. It is at the high end with the FX series that they are getting blown away! A 2500k massacres a 8150. They are great for budget builds, and you can get a good overclock out of them to compete. I prefer Intel myself, but if AMD released a processor that smoked Intel I would jump ship in a heartbeat.
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I'm sorry this is incorrect. SOME Xeon's are faster than AMD's Opterons, but they also cost so much more that the speed benefit is completely lost.
I will use Cinebench and F@H as an example as I have numbers for both. An SR2 with Hexes at 4.x costs upwards of $1500+ but gets destroyed by an AMD 4p like mine (see sig) in Cinebench and F@H. My 4p cost $1300. A 2p E5-2690 gets 24 points in cinebench. My 4p gets 22, and a 4x12core 4p gets 30.
2p e5 2690 = $5-6k = 24 cinebench points
4p Opteron 6128 = $1.3-1.5k 22 cinebench points
4p Opteron 6174 = $2.5-3k 30 cinebench points
There are Opteron 4p's capable of over 40 points and they STILL cost less than a Xeon setup.
Inb4: BUT HERP DERP THE XEON ONLY HAS 2 CPUS ITS NOT FAIR!@!@!
point? AMD still destroys Intel for less $.

Understood your argument. But for enterprise user, performance to wattage ratio is far more important. Total operating cost is far more important to them than initial purchasing cost. In that case Xeon will outperform Opteron.
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And this is what's called "Completely missing the point". What I said applies to any sort of CPU architecture from either brand. If you enjoy pulling up Bulldozer power consumption graphs, continue! We've all seen them, you're wasting your time to be frank.

o no! the faster sb is there too using less power
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Understood your argument. But for enterprise user, performance to wattage ratio is far more important. Total operating cost is far more important to them than initial purchasing cost. In that case Xeon will outperform Opteron.

agreed
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Understood your argument. But for enterprise user, performance to wattage ratio is far more important. Total operating cost is far more important to them than initial purchasing cost. In that case Xeon will outperform Opteron.

They don't though. An opteron 6174 (thats 48 cores) can beat an Intel 8p with 80 cores in F@H.
 
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They don't though. An opteron 6174 (thats 48 cores) can beat an Intel 8p with 80 cores in F@H.

Not all enterprises fold. If they do Xeon still has better performance to wattage ratio than Opteron. Their biggest concern is performance to wattage ratio, not absolute raw performance.
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I believe this thread has run its course.

Thread locked, because we've had this same discussion time and time again, and it ALWAYS ends up in fighting.
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