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Im running a msi 870s-g46 mobo with a phenom ii x4 830 at 2800 mhz. i want to overclock it because im getting a 7850 soon and i dont want it to be a bottleneck on my card. For some reason the multiplier will not go past 200x 14 and im new to overclocking. can somebody please help?
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The reason you can't go any higher than 14x is the chip is "Locked". You'd need to have a Black Edition or BE chip to have a full range of multis available.
Locked chips will not go any higher than it's stock multi, in your case 14x is the chip's stock multi.

You cannot unlock the multis in these chips either, you need a BE chip period if you want one for raising the multi up like you want. redface.gif
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oh man... im really hoping it wont bottleneck a 7850. thanks
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oh man... im really hoping it wont bottleneck a 7850. thanks

You can though clock it up via the front side bus or FSB as it's referred to - That may help you out. That will require you to learn about clocking it up that way and how to use RAM dividers. That in itself may sound difficult but in reality it's not - Actually very simple once you understand the concept.

EDIT: Here's how I explained it earlier, maybe it will help.
http://www.overclock.net/t/940116/difference-between-fsb-ocing-and-using-multipliers/10#post_12373098
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ill give it a try smile.gif i really am mad at my self though for not spending an extra 30 bucks on a 965 that i could oc to about 3.8 now mad.gif
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If wanting a BE chip, the 960T "Zosma" core is about as good as it gets for an AMD quad core.
Only caveat is these chips are fast disappearing and you'd need to move on it before they are gone for good - Unless you're lucky enough to find one used.
I cannot suggest a hex core for your board, the VRM issues MSI's are known to have make a hex core and a MSI a combo that just asks for trouble. That also goes for unlocking cores with the 960T if you try it and the chip will unlock extra cores.

I have a MSI 790FX-GD70 that a 1100T got the best of sometime ago for the reasons I gave. When the VRM's go bad, you have a dead board - Period.
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i think ill probably see if i can get an x4 695 black edition and sell my 830 for like 50 bucks when i get some extra money. i am getting a 7850 for graphics so i dont want the my cpu to bottleneck the gpu im getting. in the mean time i will most deffinetely look into overclocking through the fsb.

I just tried to increase the fsb speed and it just says 200. when i hit enter on it no menu shows up or anything. looks like im stuck at 2.8 ghz for a while.
Edited by bracewar593 - 5/2/12 at 1:53pm
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Cool.
I suggested the 960T since it has the "Better" Thuban IMC and these chips will fly too while staying cool all the while.
The one you stated as wanting to get will work as well for your useage but either one is a good choice regardless. I love my 960T, it's been a great chip since day 1.
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on second thought, the 960T looks better seeing that it consumes about 30 watts less and overclocks the same. ill just stay away from unlocking to a hex core
After reading reviews of my current cpu on newegg, people have oc'd this thing to as high as 4.2? im thinking its just my motherboard thats preventing me from overclocking.
Edited by bracewar593 - 5/2/12 at 6:58pm
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post #10 of 13
my chip is overclocked purely by the FSB, the unlocked mutli is not needed to overclock, it is just a lot easier.
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