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Well recently thanks some members here i purchased an asus xonar dx sound card. it will arrive by tomorrow!.. one day shipping =]

Now.. some people told me my speakers are whats killing me. So i was wondering if its possible to replace my front speakers on the z 5500 with something slightly better im willing to spend up to 100-140.

I think so far reasearch showns i need to.. get 8ohm and something... about crossover.. not over 150? not sure.. lol.. so im wondering did anyone here attempt to switch out the front two satellites with something better. I plan to later down the road get a whole set.

Thanks
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Well recently thanks some members here i purchased an asus xonar dx sound card. it will arrive by tomorrow!.. one day shipping =]
Now.. some people told me my speakers are whats killing me. So i was wondering if its possible to replace my front speakers on the z 5500 with something slightly better im willing to spend up to 100-140.
I think so far reasearch showns i need to.. get 8ohm and something... about crossover.. not over 150? not sure.. lol.. so im wondering did anyone here attempt to switch out the front two satellites with something better. I plan to later down the road get a whole set.
Thanks

Check out a pair of AV40s.

I'm not exactly sure how you can authentically connect them, but you could definitely use a splitter... rolleyes.gif

P.S. I love my Xonar DX, totally opened my eyes with a pair of BX5a's. I now have a AVR with a pair of Infinity Primus 163's and am working on getting a powered subwoofer thumb.gif.
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0.0 looks cool it seems like it wouldnt even pull power from the sub also
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Nope, it is completely self amp'd. Just plug them into the wall. They are a great little set of monitors.
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Look over at partsexpress, just replace the entire z5500 set. The whole thing is going to hold you back.

In the $150 price range:
Dayton T Amp + B652 Combo = $58
Dayton SUB800 = $89

Add $10 for wiring (about 50 feet of 16 gauge speaker wire, and a 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable, probably 6 foot or so), and you're set.

You can't just replace the front speakers of the z5500 that easy. You can, but you're still going to have the same problems of a poor amplifier, and an even worse crossover design. Plus the extremely boomy and distorted subwoofer.
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Look over at partsexpress, just replace the entire z5500 set. The whole thing is going to hold you back.
In the $150 price range:
Dayton T Amp + B652 Combo = $58
Dayton SUB800 = $89
Add $10 for wiring (about 50 feet of 16 gauge speaker wire, and a 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable, probably 6 foot or so), and you're set.
You can't just replace the front speakers of the z5500 that easy. You can, but you're still going to have the same problems of a poor amplifier, and an even worse crossover design. Plus the extremely boomy and distorted subwoofer.

Sigh... I was trying to save him from the deep and dark path of hunting for audio... Yes, you probably will just end up taking out all of the speakers on your Z5500 and just use the sub, then worry about adding Bass. I am not sure how the B652 compare to a pair of AV40 though, can you compare pioneer?
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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud View Post

Look over at partsexpress, just replace the entire z5500 set. The whole thing is going to hold you back.
In the $150 price range:
Dayton T Amp + B652 Combo = $58
Dayton SUB800 = $89
Add $10 for wiring (about 50 feet of 16 gauge speaker wire, and a 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable, probably 6 foot or so), and you're set.
You can't just replace the front speakers of the z5500 that easy. You can, but you're still going to have the same problems of a poor amplifier, and an even worse crossover design. Plus the extremely boomy and distorted subwoofer.

Sigh... I was trying to save him from the deep and dark path of hunting for audio... Yes, you probably will just end up taking out all of the speakers on your Z5500 and just use the sub, then worry about adding Bass. I am not sure how the B652 compare to a pair of AV40 though, can you compare pioneer?

The AV40's are going to sound a good bit cleaner, but they'll sacrifice mid bass, and they also are only 15w each. The B652's will take up to around 70w RMS (rated for 40w). The DTA-1 amplifier that comes in that bundle is okay, nothing special....at a whopping 15w RMS per channel. The B652's are a "bright" sounding speaker (I personally like bright). They're an excellent budget speaker at $30 / pair and honestly sound like $100+ speakers.

With the B652 + T amp combo, you can easily squeeze the Dayton SUB800 (the Dayton SUB line is hands down the best and most accurate subwoofers in their price ranges). This is a huge added bonus, as you won't have to rely on the muddy z5500 subwoofer to go with your new speakers.

Overall, the Dayton setup is going to handily beat the z5500 in every aspect. They'll beat the AV40's in overall frequency response (because of the added subwoofer), but they will lack a tiny bit in clean reproduction. It's a fair trade off.

One thing...
I'd rather see you get the Lepai TA2020 amp and the B652's seperate. The Lepai TA2020 mini amp is actually more suited for 8ohm speakers, whereas the DTA-1 is more for 4ohm speakers.
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hmm whats a good 5.1 for 300? I guess my limitations are actually spending the money in the first place to get the z5500
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The AV40's are going to sound a good bit cleaner, but they'll sacrifice mid bass, and they also are only 15w each. The B652's will take up to around 70w RMS (rated for 40w). The DTA-1 amplifier that comes in that bundle is okay, nothing special....at a whopping 15w RMS per channel. The B652's are a "bright" sounding speaker (I personally like bright). They're an excellent budget speaker at $30 / pair and honestly sound like $100+ speakers.
With the B652 + T amp combo, you can easily squeeze the Dayton SUB800 (the Dayton SUB line is hands down the best and most accurate subwoofers in their price ranges). This is a huge added bonus, as you won't have to rely on the muddy z5500 subwoofer to go with your new speakers.
Overall, the Dayton setup is going to handily beat the z5500 in every aspect. They'll beat the AV40's in overall frequency response (because of the added subwoofer), but they will lack a tiny bit in clean reproduction. It's a fair trade off.
One thing...
I'd rather see you get the Lepai TA2020 amp and the B652's seperate. The Lepai TA2020 mini amp is actually more suited for 8ohm speakers, whereas the DTA-1 is more for 4ohm speakers.

The AV40's are actually 20w per channel wink.gif. The reason I suggested them is because he already had a sub that would take care of the low end. Granted the z5500 is a not-so-top-of-the-line subwoofer...

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hmm whats a good 5.1 for 300? I guess my limitations are actually spending the money in the first place to get the z5500

If you have 300 to spend I'd suggest taking the dip into an AVR if 5.1 is a must. I have my cheap pioneer 5.1 80w/chan AVR that works fine for $120, you can easily find one cheaper on Craigslist or other sources. Then just work on building your 2.1, once you have a solid 2.1 then fill out the rest of the system thumb.gif you will be very pleased with the purchase. It will not even remotely compare to anything Logitech produces.
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so for the av40's it should work fine right? i just have to buy adapters? i dont have to worry about the ohnm or having the av40 overload my subwoofer since it has it own power supply. im just trying to figure out how to.. plug it are those rca cables / coax or something else.
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