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Instead of developing compelling new products and spending money on effective advertising campaigns, companies invest in lawsuits designed to cripple the competition (Apple anyone?).....

I can't beat em so I'm going to sue em rolleyes.gif
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Instead of developing compelling new products and spending money on effective advertising campaigns, companies invest in lawsuits designed to cripple the competition (Apple anyone?).....
I can't beat em so I'm going to sue em rolleyes.gif
"It follows a ruling that Microsoft had infringed two patents necessary to offer H.264 video coding and playback."
Motorola is supposed to make new codecs and advertise them in order to compete with the ones used by Microsoft?
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Yes I understand your point, it's the patent game. Have you looked at Motorola's stock price compared to Microsoft?
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Instead of developing compelling new products and spending money on effective advertising campaigns, companies invest in lawsuits designed to cripple the competition (Apple anyone?).....
I can't beat em so I'm going to sue em rolleyes.gif

Its clear to me that Motorola has such patents...and that Microsoft never wanted to license them. It seems they will be forced now...and thus its good, as its fair. Nothing to do with Apple patenting BS all the time.
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Yes I understand your point, it's the patent game. Have you looked at Motorola's stock price compared to Microsoft?
I don't understand your point, though. Motorola should do nothing against this and just compete with itself to run codecs that'll be used by Microsoft?
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Instead of developing compelling new products and spending money on effective advertising campaigns, companies invest in lawsuits designed to cripple the competition (Apple anyone?).....
I can't beat em so I'm going to sue em rolleyes.gif

I mean if people are stealing from you, you shouldn't exactly just ignore it and make new stuff. It's not like Apple where they are trying to patent things like "Objects you hold in your hand," or, "devices with round edges you can see with your eyes." H.264 isn't exactly some common sense thing. Motorola owns the H.264 patent and apparently (according to these German courts) Microsoft just stuck that codec in everything and doesn't pay any royalties to the company who developed it.

At least this is what I am taking away from the article. Sometimes law suits are a good thing, millions of man hours of work isn't just free to use.
    
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This is why I think codecs, etc should be free. (ie. Free Speech, not free beer.) Less crap in implementing them on everything so your music and movies work on any device. Especially since they're usually just as good if not better (Ogg Vorbis > MP3. Seriously, 45kbps Ogg Vorbis sounds the same as a 320kbps MP3 to me. There's also tests saying as such.) too.
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Wow! I'm watching "Toy Story 3" with my daughter, and as soon as I read this post I heard Mr. Potatoe Head saying; "MONEY MONEY MONEY!"

Patent law needs some serious work, it's just not suited for technology/globalization.


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Wow, every time I hear something about Germany these days it elicits a feeling of "glad I don't live there". (That's not say that I don't agree with them finding in favor of Motorola; just that it must suck for the average citizen.)
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Sometimes law suits are a good thing, millions of man hours of work isn't just free to use.

Some people just don't get this. You cant just use other peoples work.
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