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Hi. This site came up quite frequently while Googling for information regarding potential components. The threads were very helpful, so after the build was done I thought I'd join. I've already gotten answers to a few questions. Anyway, here is what I came up with:

ASUS Crosshair V Formula
AMD Phenom II x4 980 BE
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
Zalman CNPS 10x Extreme CPU Cooler
G.SKILL Sniper 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 1.35v
Sapphire Radeon 6870 Video Card
Samsung 830 - Series MZ-7PC256D/AM 256 GB 2.5 Inch SATA III MLC Internal SSD - C:
Western Digital Velociraptor 600 GB SATA III 10000 RPM 32 MB Cache Hard Drive - D:
ASUS BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS 12X Blu-ray Internal Burner
Lite On iHDS118-04 DVD-ROM
AFT PRO-57U All-in-one USB 3.0 5.25" Media Card Reader
Intel EXPI9301CTBLK Network Adapter 10/ 100/ 1000Mbps PCI-Express (onboard LAN DOA)
Antec Three Hundred Two Case
COUGAR CF-V12HP Vortex Hydro-Dynamic-Bearing (Fluid) 300,000 Hours 12CM PWM Fans (4)
Antec EA-750 Green PS
ASUS VE276Q Monitor
Microsoft Sidewinder 4x Keyboard
Razer DeathAdder Mouse.

I've never overclocked anything, but I'm trying to learn the basics any just might give it a shot on this system. Compared to my old system, an Athlon 64 4000+ on an ASUS A8N-VM CSM, this thing is fast without any overclocking.

I don't do a lot of gaming, but if I hit any bottlenecks with the 6870 card, I might pick up a second one and Crossfire them.
post #2 of 27
welcome thumb.gif

looks like a really nice build biggrin.gif

you should post some pics when you get the chance
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W7 Home Premium HP LP2465 Saitek Eclipse II Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W 
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128GB Samsung 470 Series SATA II MLC MZ-5PA128C/AM 640GB Caviar Blue ASUS USB 2.0 Black External Slim CD/DVD Corsair H100 
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W7 Home Premium HP LP2465 Saitek Eclipse II Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W 
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16GB RAM?

I would only get that if we're talking about a light workstation, but I don't think thats it, due to CPU choice.

Go 8GB, and the 1600MHz is the way to go... Higher than that, not really worth the money.

A Blu-Ray Drive? Well.... Thats up to you wink.gif

Imo, you could cut off quite a bit buying a 128GB SSD, and spend it on a better GPU, maybe 6950, or CF 6870.

You sure about the CPU choice? Maybe an FX? I'm not sure here, I'm more of an Intel guy.
Well, I hope my opinion helped smile.gif
If you need anything during the build, PM me smile.gif
Edited by Artur - 5/2/12 at 2:48pm
post #4 of 27
Welcome,
Seems Like a nice build but 16Gb of ram :/
It would be best to mabey got with 8Gb Should do if you are gaming Unless you feel the urge to the 16gb but anyway seems like a good build, Post Pics when you have built it biggrin.gif
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[AMD] FX 4100  [Gigabyte] GA-880GM-USB3 (Rev 3.1) [MSI] Radeon HD 6770  [Crucial] Ballistix tactical tracers (2x2GB) 16... 
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[Seagate] ST1000DM003 1TB (Storage) [SanDisk] 64GB SSD (Boot) [Coolermaster] Hyper TX3 Evo [Windows] 7 Professional x64 
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[LG] Flatron W2246 22" [Novatech] PowerStation 500W PSU [Fractal Design] Core 1000  [Gigabyte] M6800 Gamings Mouse 
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[Ozone] Groundlevel S Gaming Mousemat [Gigabyte] Onboard Audio 
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[Seagate] ST1000DM003 1TB (Storage) [SanDisk] 64GB SSD (Boot) [Coolermaster] Hyper TX3 Evo [Windows] 7 Professional x64 
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[LG] Flatron W2246 22" [Novatech] PowerStation 500W PSU [Fractal Design] Core 1000  [Gigabyte] M6800 Gamings Mouse 
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Thanks guys. I can understand the questions regarding the RAM and the processor. The easiest to explain is the RAM. While researching, it was clear that 8GB was "plenty" of RAM. But when I built my last computer (2005), 1GB was "plenty," then a year later 2GB was mandatory. RAM is cheap enough now that it was easy to just start with a matched set of 16 rather than start with 8 and possibly end up needing 16 a couple of years from now. Who knows, maybe 8 would be plenty for the life of this computer. At least now I don't need to even think about it.

The processor choice took a while. While not the ideal processor, it will do for a temporary one. Firstly, even though it was clear I could get a much faster processor going the Intel route, all the computers I've ever built were based on ASUS motherboards and AMD processors. Why did I choose to stay with AMD? I don't know, call it familiarity. That said, the new FX chips are not getting the ravest of reviews. Maybe they will get better, maybe not. The platform is immature. In contrast, the Phenom II platform is mature. I had narrowed it down between a 1090T and the 980BE. Brand new 1090T's were hard to find and going for more than I thought they were worth. Not so much with the 980BE. And the 980 has the fastest per core speed (without overclocking) of all the currently available AMD processors, FX included, and even the 1090T in turbo mode if I read correctly. It also would seem there are very few applications that run more than four threads, so I didn't really see the current need for a 6 or 8 core processor. When the FX chips start delivering better performance I'll likely swap the Phenom II out for one of them. Alternatively, I have read that at least the first iterations of Piledriver might be AM3+ based, in which case if they deliver the goods, then I will look into one of them. That said, I've never overclocked any my seven previous AMD builds, but with this being a "temporary" CPU, I thought it might be fun to give it a shot and see what I can squeeze out of it.

Anyway, I'll post some pics up soon.
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Originally Posted by DocNrock View Post

Hi. This site came up quite frequently while Googling for information regarding potential components. The threads were very helpful, so after the build was done I thought I'd join. I've already gotten answers to a few questions. Anyway, here is what I came up with:
ASUS Crosshair V Formula
AMD Phenom II x4 980 BE
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
Zalman CNPS 10x Extreme CPU Cooler
G.SKILL Sniper 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 1.35v
Sapphire Radeon 6870 Video Card
Samsung 830 - Series MZ-7PC256D/AM 256 GB 2.5 Inch SATA III MLC Internal SSD - C:
Western Digital Velociraptor 600 GB SATA III 10000 RPM 32 MB Cache Hard Drive - D:
ASUS BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS 12X Blu-ray Internal Burner
Lite On iHDS118-04 DVD-ROM
AFT PRO-57U All-in-one USB 3.0 5.25" Media Card Reader
Intel EXPI9301CTBLK Network Adapter 10/ 100/ 1000Mbps PCI-Express (onboard LAN DOA)
Antec Three Hundred Two Case
COUGAR CF-V12HP Vortex Hydro-Dynamic-Bearing (Fluid) 300,000 Hours 12CM PWM Fans (4)
Antec EA-750 Green PS
ASUS VE276Q Monitor
Microsoft Sidewinder 4x Keyboard
Razer DeathAdder Mouse.
I've never overclocked anything, but I'm trying to learn the basics any just might give it a shot on this system. Compared to my old system, an Athlon 64 4000+ on an ASUS A8N-VM CSM, this thing is fast without any overclocking.
I don't do a lot of gaming, but if I hit any bottlenecks with the 6870 card, I might pick up a second one and Crossfire them.


Sounds like a great build smile.gif

My opinion though. Forget the raptor. Stick with the 16gb of ram (More is always better) biggrin.gif, get a higher up graphics card. Downgrade the Crosshair (Not really neccesary unless your going to xfire later on. Change the CPU cooler to a H80 or a Coolermaster 212 EVO, change the SSD to a M4 Crucial or an Intel 520. Drop the DVD burner and get a blu ray burner that also does DVDs.

That may seem like alot of changes, but will get you better quality. Also, good selection on the CPU, although if i were you, i'd strongly consider a 960T. they currently sell for $125 on Newegg, while the 980 goes for $150 and is outperformed by the 960t
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Sounds like a great build smile.gif
My opinion though. Forget the raptor. Stick with the 16gb of ram (More is always better) biggrin.gif, get a higher up graphics card. Downgrade the Crosshair (Not really neccesary unless your going to xfire later on. Change the CPU cooler to a H80 or a Coolermaster 212 EVO, change the SSD to a M4 Crucial or an Intel 520. Drop the DVD burner and get a blu ray burner that also does DVDs.
That may seem like alot of changes, but will get you better quality. Also, good selection on the CPU, although if i were you, i'd strongly consider a 960T. they currently sell for $125 on Newegg, while the 980 goes for $150 and is outperformed by the 960t

Thanks, but its already built. FWIW, the burner is a blu ray burner that also burns DVD's (and CD's). And I just might CF the 6870 down the road. smile.gif
post #8 of 27
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So I played around with a bit of overclocking for the first time ever. I cheated to start with and used the Auto Tune feature of the TurboV Evo software that came with the MB. I haven't run any extended stability tests yet, but the software got this up to about 4.4GHz before a BSOD. Its running right now at 4.2 GHz. I haven't increased the multiplier yet. I'm also still on the XMS3 1333 RAM, but I have the G.Skill 1600 ready to put in. How do I post the CPUID validation screen?
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007671%2050001028%20600213781&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=343%7C19%2D103%2D935%5E19%2D103%2D935%2DTS%2C19%2D106%2D009%5E19%2D106%2D009%2DTS
by that right there you can see there is a bulldozer chip clocked faster stock then your 980. i remembered that there was a quad core fx chip clocked to over 4.0ghz stock because i was stoked to see that kinda speed out of one stock. otherwise you have a pretty solid build overall. while 8gb of ram may very well be "enough" currently....16gb guarantees you wont ever need more down the road when you least expect it. you are correct in that piledriver will be am3+ socket so your set for that or bulldozer depending on what you want to do....plus that crosshair formula 5 will overclock like a beast. im shocked your onboard lan card was doa upon receipt of the motherboard. did you buy from newegg or microcenter?!
 
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007671%2050001028%20600213781&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=343%7C19%2D103%2D935%5E19%2D103%2D935%2DTS%2C19%2D106%2D009%5E19%2D106%2D009%2DTS
by that right there you can see there is a bulldozer chip clocked faster stock then your 980. i remembered that there was a quad core fx chip clocked to over 4.0ghz stock because i was stoked to see that kinda speed out of one stock. otherwise you have a pretty solid build overall. while 8gb of ram may very well be "enough" currently....16gb guarantees you wont ever need more down the road when you least expect it. you are correct in that piledriver will be am3+ socket so your set for that or bulldozer depending on what you want to do....plus that crosshair formula 5 will overclock like a beast. im shocked your onboard lan card was doa upon receipt of the motherboard. did you buy from newegg or microcenter?!

Thanks for the reply, Dt_Freak1. I was aware of the 4170 and its stock clock speed. Right or wrong, I chose the 980BE over it for two reasons. One was that the 980BE still seemed to outperform or at least equal the 4170 in most comparative reviews I read. On top of that, the PhenomII architecture is as mature as its going to get. Went to upgrade my RAM from the XMS3 1333 to G.Skill 1600 Snipers (still 16GB) and found out that my air cooler will not clear the RAM. D'oh! Corsair HT100 obtained, but is going to require a case mod. Not into it today. Will do it tomorrow.
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