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Solved by me. Was the EIST: enabled, if disabled, the frequency is always 3.5ghz. Is it bad for my processor?? (less life, etc) I've decidad yo enable it because my processor was "working for nothing" and the temp was higher.

What's the offset option for??
Edited by freinn - 9/15/12 at 4:19am
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Solved by me. Was the EIST: enabled, if disabled, the frequency is always 3.5ghz. Is it bad for my processor?? (less life, etc) I've decidad yo enable it because my processor was "working for nothing" and the temp was higher.
What's the offset option for??

It doesn't hurt to leave it enabled. In fact, it will save you money on your power bill. I don't know if anyone could argue the longevity of the CPU if you used it vs if you didn't. These CPUs are really resilient. Do what you want with it and forget about it.
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Great thread everyone!! I used the overclocking template posted by Milamber, on page 11, and I'm sitting pretty at 4.5Ghz. I only built this system yesterday and haven't had a chance to explore all the motherboard options yet, but I'm very impressed with the GD-65 so far. I came from a P67A GD-55 board / 2500k and this setup is wayyyyyy better thumb.gif
I'll keep it at 4.5Ghz for a few days and then push it up a bit when I have a chance. What does everyone recommend for going higher? Do you leave the core voltage on Auto. . . or manually set it?

I also use the same template. I cannot get it above 4.5ghz stable without changing the vcore off of AUTO. This is a very good place to stay though for 24/7 use.
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I also use the same template. I cannot get it above 4.5ghz stable without changing the vcore off of AUTO. This is a very good place to stay though for 24/7 use.

Hmmmmm, It worked fine for me yesterday but today, I had a lot of freezes and lock ups. For some reason, the CMOS didn't want to clear and so I flashed to the latest 10.5 BIOS. I've kept everything at stock today but will probably try the overclock template again tomorrow. I noticed that using the auto vcore, I'd see it spike up to 1.3v+ on occasion and that seems too high to me?
 
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Hmmmmm, It worked fine for me yesterday but today, I had a lot of freezes and lock ups. For some reason, the CMOS didn't want to clear and so I flashed to the latest 10.5 BIOS. I've kept everything at stock today but will probably try the overclock template again tomorrow. I noticed that using the auto vcore, I'd see it spike up to 1.3v+ on occasion and that seems too high to me?

I don't think so. Some people push their chips towards 1.45vcore. For some reason mine is not very vcore hungry. Mine tops out at 1.2vcore under full load at 4.5ghz stable. I may have got a good chip. I need to take the time to manually OC it on my current cooling setup and see how far I can push it. I know I can get it to 4.7 or so. But I dont know if I really want to. What is an extra 100-200mhz when vcore has to be increased 30% and temp increases 25%? Its not worth it.
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I don't think so. Some people push their chips towards 1.45vcore. For some reason mine is not very vcore hungry. Mine tops out at 1.2vcore under full load at 4.5ghz stable. I may have got a good chip. I need to take the time to manually OC it on my current cooling setup and see how far I can push it. I know I can get it to 4.7 or so. But I dont know if I really want to. What is an extra 100-200mhz when vcore has to be increased 30% and temp increases 25%? Its not worth it.

Thanks for the input! I don't know much about these CPU's yet. I'd be happy with a stable 4.5Ghz overclock though as I only ran my 2500K at 4.6Ghz in the end. I went nuts with it at first and hit 5Ghz, but I agree, the temperatures, vcore and heat weren't worth it. I have some college work to finish up today and then I think I'll go for a manual overclock and see how that goes. I'll be disappointed if I need more than 1.3V to get it though as I only needed 1.268V on my 2500K. But, I guess that's the silicone lottery for you!

Okies, I've had a play with it and it looks like I need 1.3V for 4.5Ghz. I haven't the time to run Prime95 for any longer right now but it crashed after 10 minutes on 1.28V and 1.29V, Vdroop at 100%. Temps hitting 70c. Ran for an hour with 1.3V set in the BIOS, showing 1.272V in CPU-Z. Not a good chip I guess.
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Thanks for the input! I don't know much about these CPU's yet. I'd be happy with a stable 4.5Ghz overclock though as I only ran my 2500K at 4.6Ghz in the end. I went nuts with it at first and hit 5Ghz, but I agree, the temperatures, vcore and heat weren't worth it. I have some college work to finish up today and then I think I'll go for a manual overclock and see how that goes. I'll be disappointed if I need more than 1.3V to get it though as I only needed 1.268V on my 2500K. But, I guess that's the silicone lottery for you!
Okies, I've had a play with it and it looks like I need 1.3V for 4.5Ghz. I haven't the time to run Prime95 for any longer right now but it crashed after 10 minutes on 1.28V and 1.29V, Vdroop at 100%. Temps hitting 70c. Ran for an hour with 1.3V set in the BIOS, showing 1.272V in CPU-Z. Not a good chip I guess.

Throw up screen shots of your settings. Are you running the template I put up?( I am not claiming that template, it is another users here, I am just referencing to it) For some reason, I am noticing a correlation here. The MSI Z77A-G45 board with this template are producing the same OC at lower vcores. I haven't seen enough people confirm this yet. But, I am have seen it in a few.
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I switched from using the template to just changing the multi, Vcore and Vdroop. The other settings that are not standard are left over from when I pressed the 'overclock genie' button on the board, just to see what it did! When i pressed it again to change it back, some settings stayed the same. I didn't want to flood the thread with pics so I created an album here
 
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I switched from using the template to just changing the multi, Vcore and Vdroop. The other settings that are not standard are left over from when I pressed the 'overclock genie' button on the board, just to see what it did! When i pressed it again to change it back, some settings stayed the same. I didn't want to flood the thread with pics so I created an album here

That is exactly what I plan to do. Except I would enable C1E and C States since you are running a fixed voltage. If you don't want the voltage and speed to drop at idle(vary with activity) disable EIST. I would also disable EuP 2013.

ALSO: I am trying to figure out WTH the difference is in changing the CPU multipler number and changing the CPU ratio number. They both produce the overclock. Whichever one is higher than the other seems to "trump the other". The only thing I can figure out is you can set each core ratio instead of the entire chip multiples.
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That is exactly what I plan to do. Except I would enable C1E and C States since you are running a fixed voltage. If you don't want the voltage and speed to drop at idle(vary with activity) disable EIST. I would also disable EuP 2013.
ALSO: I am trying to figure out WTH the difference is in changing the CPU multipler number and changing the CPU ratio number. They both produce the overclock. Whichever one is higher than the other seems to "trump the other". The only thing I can figure out is you can set each core ratio instead of the entire chip multiples.

I've got both the c-state options enabled now and it seems stable. However, I transferred my old ATI HD 4890 to this board and after a day I noticed stuttering while watching movies. I tried a number of different drivers and checked that the fans were spinning up. Then, the following morning, I got artifacts on the screen and two yellow bands right down the screen. They appeared in the BIOS and so I guessed it was the card. I pulled it out and burnt my thumb on the the backplate thing on the card, so I know it had fried. I don't get how it could have happened. fans were working properly and I hadn't stressed it or even played a game yet. Is there any BIOS setting that could have overvolted it or set something that would have caused this?
I ran it yesterday on the built in GPU and noticed overclocking options in the BIOS for that but turned them off. I was surprised at how smooth it was.
Today I installed an MSI HD 7850 Twin Frozr III OC 2048MB card and that seems to be working fine thumb.gif
I'm still curios as to what could have caused my old card to cook though. It wasn't in the top PCI-E slot as it didn't work in there but airflow wasn't really restricted in the middle slot and there was no significant dust build up. Any ideas? Or maybe it was just it's time to die?
 
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128GB Crucial M4 Western Digital Green HDD Samsung F3 Samsung F2 
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Seagate Archive Sony Dual Layer DVD Corsair H80 Windows 7 Ultimate 64 
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LG IPS234V-PN - 23" LED LCD HDMI IPS Monitor LG Flatron 22" LCD W2243S Logitech Corsair HX850W 
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Corsair 600t Logitech 
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i5 3570K Asus P8Z68-VGEN3 MSI HD 7850 8GB Geil Black Dragon 
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Seagate  Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Acer 22" X222W  Corsair CX 750 
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Fractal Design Arc Midi 
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X5650 X5650 Crucial Crucial 
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Crucial Crucial Crucial Crucial 
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Seagate DVD RW Windows 10 32" Hannspree TV 
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