Originally Posted by prava
Sure they've also released similar GPUs as Geforce cards before, but...
a) They are introducing a Tesla card in may 15th
They're not introducing a product. they're just going to give to info on the big chip they've been working on.
b) Such card will be released by the end of 2012
haven't seen any proof of this as of yet.
c) They've just released GTX690
doesn't matter it's a dual GPU card, the GK110 wouldn't be competing with it in performance.
d) GK104 performs like crap in GPGPU
just like GF104, GF114 which were also designed to be gaming chips, are much more effective at gaming than GF100, GF110, and were also gimped much more so than GF100, GF110 just like the GK104 is gimped in that regard.
So, do you still believe that the chip that they will be introducing will actually launch at Geforce cards? Keep in mind that we have never seen a situation like this, and that the professional cards that NVIDIA owns features a HUGE gross margin (look at the raw numbers that compare 2011 vs 2012, in fiscal years). Altogether, with the fact that the professional segment is growing at a very nice pace, makes me wonder if the chip they will show will ever launch as a Geforce card because it could be designed with only GPGPU in mind...and that wouldn't be a bad idea at all when you realise that using different chips for different targets, if they are large enough, brings a lot of efficiency to the table (as it is, GK104 is super efficient at raster tasks...but is crappy at gpgpu ones...).
Yes I still fully believe that it will release as a GeForce product. The only differences with the situation at the moment compared to older generations are that the mainstream gamer chip GK104 (compare to GF114 etc.) was released before the high end and as a result of the chip being remarkably good and AMD gouging prices are really high compared to the cost of making the chips (die size, I know it's not the only factor at all but both manufacturers are making a killing with current gen cards)
Again GF100 and the refresh GF110 were already pretty much completely designed to be GPGPU chips and they did release as GeForce products. NV's professional cards have always been costly but you have to remember that that's the case with pretty much all products that have support like the tesla cards do. Dedicated drivers also need to be made so obviously the price is higher.
Lastly the thing that also needs to be considered is that if prices stay as high as they are now such a card would likely be over 600$, maybe even 700. That's more than enough for NV to make a profit out of it and because of that it makes sense to release it as a gaming card as well.