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Originally Posted by PoopaScoopa View Post

The correct way of using logic is to say you have not seen any direct evidence including Apple into any part of this. Guilty by association is a logical fallacy.

Way to take one line out of context and try to spin it.

I go on to say..
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As far as I can tell, you do not have a source with Target giving any reason as to why they're getting rid of the Kindle.

A reason being given as to why they are doing this would be a method of excluding Apple as a source. Of course this would cause anti-trust issues if Apple is, so there likely wouldn't be a statement stating as such. There probably won't be a statement anyway.

Guilt by association being a "logical fallacy" is an opinion, which you're entitled to. I would say writing two things off that could easily be connected as big coincidences is just as big of a logical fallacy.
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For the record, there IS some sort of unanswered, questionable reasoning for the discontinuation. It is NOT because of poor sales. Target has been selling the Kindle for two years. Target is also still carrying the Nook, which definitely underperforms the Kindle in sales. Sorry, but all fingers point to Apple in my opinion. Oh, I guess I should also mention that the Kindle Fire recently outsold the iPad in Best Buy stores?

http://consumerist.com/2012/05/target-to-stop-selling-kindle-over-conflict-of-interest.html
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TheVerge.com was the first to report on this change, quoting a source as saying that Target had decided to pull the Kindle over a mysterious "conflict of interest."
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So what is this "conflict of interest"? TheVerge theorizes it might have something to do with a recent partnership between Target and Apple to open mini-stores within Target locations. We think it has more to do with Target not wanting to make money for an online business that is set to become one of the top 10 retailers in the nation in the near future.

The theories go either which way. In the end, it's all a theory until someone outs the truth. /thread?

I guess I should also say that I'm not really taking any sides here... I don't really care for Target nor Apple, I shop smart. lachen.gif

My initial response to the mention of the possibility of Apple's involvement was "Oh... that IS a bit of a coincidence."
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 5/3/12 at 6:26am
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I have stayed off of OCN lately due to the aggravation of finding something new every day that Apple has done to make me mad, I got a bit excited when I saw the latest stories this morning and did not see the words Apple or iPod or iPhone in any of them... should have known better.

There may be no proof to link Target's decision to Apple, but those of us that are smart enough to not buy over priced junk just because it makes us look "cool" know better.

Just one more reason for me to not shop at Target.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/03/business/after-warning-amazon-about-sales-tactics-target-will-stop-selling-kindles.html
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“What we aren’t willing to do is let online-only retailers use our brick-and-mortar stores as a showroom for their products and undercut our prices,” Target executives wrote...

There, answered.

Can we now all move past petty angst against a brand of all things?
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/03/business/after-warning-amazon-about-sales-tactics-target-will-stop-selling-kindles.html
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“What we aren’t willing to do is let online-only retailers use our brick-and-mortar stores as a showroom for their products and undercut our prices,” Target executives wrote...
There, answered.
Can we now all move past petty angst against a brand of all things?

I think it's obvious that this is just another ploy by Apple to undermine Amazon.
 
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What happens if I bought a Kindle a few days back, it quits working for no reason at end of May, how do I get it exchanged if Target won't carry them anymore? rolleyes.gif

Hope people don't get stuck with busted Kindle that can't be replaced because Target would rather kiss up Apple's butt for their stuff.
    
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What happens if I bought a Kindle a few days back, it quits working for no reason at end of May, how do I get it exchanged if Target won't carry them anymore? rolleyes.gif
Hope people don't get stuck with busted Kindle that can't be replaced because Target would rather kiss up Apple's butt for their stuff.

Are ya stupid?
Do you think Amazon wont back its own products?
My friend cracked the screen on her Kindle DX and Amazon replaced it in 2 days and it was 10-months old.

Retail is all about profit per square foot.
They make close to nothing selling a Kindle and the only thing they can make money on with the kindle are accessories like cases and screen protectors.... which people usually buy after their initial purchase.

Frankly, I think the Kindle is a silly thing for retailers to waste space on when they can sell higher margin electronics that are in equal or higher demand.
Plus, a small Apple store inside Target increases not only Target's visibility for quality products but also improves the prestige of the establishment.

Apple hate is so annoying. It's business and it's booming - Nobody is making you buy it and if you disagree with how other people spend their hard earned money you need to find a better hobby. Let them play farmville on their $1,300 laptop and Angry Birds on their $600 tablet.
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While I wouldn't put it past Apple, they really wouldn't have a reason to pay Target off to ban the Kindle from their stores. The Fire is the only Kindle that competes with Apple at all, and the iPad line is much more popular than the Kindle Fire is. Not to mention that Amazon would hit Apple with an enormous lawsuit if they found out, and it's one they would win.

Target's own explanation makes more sense. Amazon competes with Target directly on several fronts, with the inherent advantages that an online retailer has against a traditional one. Unless Target is making a lot of money selling Amazon's Kindles, it makes no sense for them to continue carrying them. Apple, on the other hand, is an electronics company with many popular products, and doesn't sell a wide range of consumer goods that overlap with what Target offers. Carrying Apple improves Target's product portfolio without benefitting a competitor.

Not that this would make me buy an Apple product from Target, or from anyone else.
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