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I am looking for a program that will allow me to stream all of my media music and movies across not only my internal network but also to my devices while I am out and about. As well it will need to transcode the original formats into usable formats for multiple devices. I am not going to make different versions for different devices. Does anyone have any suggestions. I have come up empty as to a viable solution.
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I use Media Tomb on Linux to do this internally, but not got round to testing it outside of my home network.
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I am looking for a program that will allow me to stream all of my media music and movies across not only my internal network but also to my devices while I am out and about. As well it will need to transcode the original formats into usable formats for multiple devices. I am not going to make different versions for different devices. Does anyone have any suggestions. I have come up empty as to a viable solution.


Didn't really mention an OS preference. Windows actually has a UPnP service built in which can be managed via windows media player or any number of third party apps.

For the stream to multiple devices you might have to be more specific. For audio I think something like Google's or Amazon's various music cloud services (probably limited to north america albeit) might be a superior choice for audio streaming.

The video is the sticky part. If all your devices support h.264/MP4 that is a pretty good universal format these days. The format really depends on the capabilities of your device(s). Do you want to use one single file to stream to an iPhone from a latency-ridden hotel wifi as watching locally on your big HD TV? That might not work out so good.

For streaming outside the network you're going to need an awful not of upload bandwidth and super-low-latency. Also have to decide if you're comfortable opening a port on your router (versus using something like hamchi).

Can you list some examples of the kind of devices you're going to use this with?
 
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subsonic does what you want  http://www.subsonic.org/pages/index.jsp

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I use Subsonic virtually on my xenserver installed linux centos 5. It works great for streaming music to my iphone and other devices.
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I am looking for a program that will allow me to stream all of my media music and movies across not only my internal network but also to my devices while I am out and about. As well it will need to transcode the original formats into usable formats for multiple devices. I am not going to make different versions for different devices. Does anyone have any suggestions. I have come up empty as to a viable solution.
Didn't really mention an OS preference. Windows actually has a UPnP service built in which can be managed via windows media player or any number of third party apps.
For the stream to multiple devices you might have to be more specific. For audio I think something like Google's or Amazon's various music cloud services (probably limited to north america albeit) might be a superior choice for audio streaming.
The video is the sticky part. If all your devices support h.264/MP4 that is a pretty good universal format these days. The format really depends on the capabilities of your device(s). Do you want to use one single file to stream to an iPhone from a latency-ridden hotel wifi as watching locally on your big HD TV? That might not work out so good.
For streaming outside the network you're going to need an awful not of upload bandwidth and super-low-latency. Also have to decide if you're comfortable opening a port on your router (versus using something like hamchi).
Can you list some examples of the kind of devices you're going to use this with?

Latency isn't an issue. Only bandwidth.
When you're streaming media (music or video), it will all get buffered by both the client and server sending the stream. So your latency will be shot to pieces anyway.
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I am looking for a program that will allow me to stream all of my media music and movies across not only my internal network but also to my devices while I am out and about. As well it will need to transcode the original formats into usable formats for multiple devices. I am not going to make different versions for different devices. Does anyone have any suggestions. I have come up empty as to a viable solution.
Didn't really mention an OS preference. Windows actually has a UPnP service built in which can be managed via windows media player or any number of third party apps.
For the stream to multiple devices you might have to be more specific. For audio I think something like Google's or Amazon's various music cloud services (probably limited to north america albeit) might be a superior choice for audio streaming.
The video is the sticky part. If all your devices support h.264/MP4 that is a pretty good universal format these days. The format really depends on the capabilities of your device(s). Do you want to use one single file to stream to an iPhone from a latency-ridden hotel wifi as watching locally on your big HD TV? That might not work out so good.
For streaming outside the network you're going to need an awful not of upload bandwidth and super-low-latency. Also have to decide if you're comfortable opening a port on your router (versus using something like hamchi).
Can you list some examples of the kind of devices you're going to use this with?

Currently am using Fedora as the operating system with Amahi as the server. In my own house it does what I need it to for other computers and such. The trouble I am having is either I am not smart enough yet to understand how to get the mediatomb transcoder to do what I want or it is just not working the way I need it to. I am ultimately wanting to stream it to computers and personal devices like my phone when I am on trips or wherever. I get that the bandwidth is my real limiting factor but even being able to dl a transcoded copy would be better.

All of my videos are currently in the raw video_ts form. I guess I may need to transcode them all first. Trouble is will that limit the way the videos act? ie I want them to perform just like the dvd/bluray does with all the menus and such. Not just the video itself. Thanks all.
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I have yet to see a program that will read the disk and transcode them for mobile use. I suggest using Plex (http://www.plexapp.com) for Linux systems. It will transcode on the fly any media you have. I keep two copies of my stuff. One copy of the disk and one full video rip at 1080 that can then be transcoded on the fly by Plex to resolution that matches your speed and resolution for your mobile device.

Another option that you can do with the disk images is create a shared folder (sftp or the like) or vpn connection and mount the disk image from say a laptop outside your network. This works well if you have a good upload speed.
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Currently am using Fedora as the operating system with Amahi as the server. In my own house it does what I need it to for other computers and such. The trouble I am having is either I am not smart enough yet to understand how to get the mediatomb transcoder to do what I want or it is just not working the way I need it to. I am ultimately wanting to stream it to computers and personal devices like my phone when I am on trips or wherever. I get that the bandwidth is my real limiting factor but even being able to dl a transcoded copy would be better.
All of my videos are currently in the raw video_ts form. I guess I may need to transcode them all first. Trouble is will that limit the way the videos act? ie I want them to perform just like the dvd/bluray does with all the menus and such. Not just the video itself. Thanks all.
I'm glad I'm not the only one having problems with Media Tomb. I've pretty much come to the conclusion that it's a good for nothing pile of horse manure.
However I had a play around with subsonic (after other guys suggestions in this thread) and found the default install pretty much worked perfectly. Transcoding and all.

the only issues I had were largely my fault:
* my media is on a different server to the streamer and mounted via a readonly NFS share. so I had to do a little tweaking with permissions to get cover art to play ball
* i was running OpenJRE instead of oracle JRE, so had a few weird java exceptions (only visible in the logs). But switching over to Oracles JRE fixed them easily.

I definitely think it's worth you giving it a try (and although it's not UPnP / DNLA, there are XBMC, Android and iOS apps available)
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I have yet to see a program that will read the disk and transcode them for mobile use. I suggest using Plex (http://www.plexapp.com) for Linux systems. It will transcode on the fly any media you have. I keep two copies of my stuff. One copy of the disk and one full video rip at 1080 that can then be transcoded on the fly by Plex to resolution that matches your speed and resolution for your mobile device.
Another option that you can do with the disk images is create a shared folder (sftp or the like) or vpn connection and mount the disk image from say a laptop outside your network. This works well if you have a good upload speed.
Subsonic will read the disk and transcode them for mobile use
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I'm glad I'm not the only one having problems with Media Tomb. I've pretty much come to the conclusion that it's a good for nothing pile of horse manure.
However I had a play around with subsonic (after other guys suggestions in this thread) and found the default install pretty much worked perfectly. Transcoding and all.
the only issues I had were largely my fault:
* my media is on a different server to the streamer and mounted via a readonly NFS share. so I had to do a little tweaking with permissions to get cover art to play ball
* i was running OpenJRE instead of oracle JRE, so had a few weird java exceptions (only visible in the logs). But switching over to Oracles JRE fixed them easily.
I definitely think it's worth you giving it a try (and although it's not UPnP / DNLA, there are XBMC, Android and iOS apps available)
Subsonic will read the disk and transcode them for mobile use

So after much interesting reading on Subsonic forums it seems it will do it.thumb.gif Now if I wasn't already using WHS for my media needs I would be switching. Subsonic seems to do just about anything with some tinkering.
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