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Nice card and performance, temps were alright and the power draw is definitely a surprise, it uses less power than 2x 680 in SLI. ATI better do something fast to regain the performance crown.
    
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Nice card and performance, temps were alright and the power draw is definitely a surprise, it uses less power than 2x 680 in SLI. ATI better do something fast to regain the performance crown.

Nvidia's need to release lower end cards is far more urgent than AMD losing out in the high performance space. Who cares if Nvidia's got the crown if prices are still ridiculous?
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Nvidia's need to release lower end cards is far more urgent than AMD losing out in the high performance space. Who cares if Nvidia's got the crown if prices are still ridiculous?

The 670 drops on May 11th...it should be around $380-400 (rumored). It'll be around 80-85% the performance of a stock 680 for $100 or so less. The 660Ti won't drop for a while though.
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Nvidia's need to release lower end cards is far more urgent than AMD losing out in the high performance space. Who cares if Nvidia's got the crown if prices are still ridiculous?

Your right about that. I gurantee you Nvidia sold a boatload more 560tis then 580s.

On AMD though I don't think they're going to get the performance crown this time around. At stock they definitely won't. They do OC better but most people don't pay attention to that when arguing.

What AMD does have with their dual GPU solution though is a whole heck of a lot of room to price it. 800 bucks and it's a wayyyy better value then the 690 and still expensive relative to past generations. Next month will be interesting in that regard.
    
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Kepler is quite a bit more power efficient than GCN. That's what is keeping AMD from claiming the performance crown. Since that power envelope is a lot lower, it means they can push the architecture further without too much trouble. It also means that AMD's comparable solution will most definitely use more power and perform worse this time around. The only way for AMD to catch Nvidia with the current iteration of GCN is to push clock speeds into the stratosphere. Unfortunately, that means pushing power usage to an equally high level, and that could spell trouble for AMD.

I know everyone thinks AMD has some secret weapon that they're about to unleash on the world that will put them back into the game, but I just don't think they do. Nvidia unleashed their weapon of choice (GTX 680), and it took out AMD's performance and power advantage in one swift stroke. We knew the GTX 690 was going to be powerful, but what is surprising is the low power usage for what it is.

Seriously, I want AMD to bounce back, but Nvidia has truly beaten them in virtually every metric with the GTX 690.
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Kepler is quite a bit more power efficient than GCN. That's what is keeping AMD from claiming the performance crown. Since that power envelope is a lot lower, it means they can push the architecture further without too much trouble. It also means that AMD's comparable solution will most definitely use more power and perform worse this time around. The only way for AMD to catch Nvidia with the current iteration of GCN is to push clock speeds into the stratosphere. Unfortunately, that means pushing power usage to an equally high level, and that could spell trouble for AMD.
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Seriously, I want AMD to bounce back, but Nvidia has truly beaten them in virtually every metric with the GTX 690.

But on the other hand the 7970 is closer to the 680 then the 6970 ever was to the 580. The funny thing about this generation of GPUs is AMD and Nvidia kind of took each others leads when designing their GPUs. Nvidia went small and efficient and AMD made massive gains in the compute department.

AMD's GPU section is fine. It's their CPUs that are worrying.
    
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Kepler is quite a bit more power efficient than GCN. That's what is keeping AMD from claiming the performance crown. Since that power envelope is a lot lower, it means they can push the architecture further without too much trouble. It also means that AMD's comparable solution will most definitely use more power and perform worse this time around. The only way for AMD to catch Nvidia with the current iteration of GCN is to push clock speeds into the stratosphere. Unfortunately, that means pushing power usage to an equally high level, and that could spell trouble for AMD.
I know everyone thinks AMD has some secret weapon that they're about to unleash on the world that will put them back into the game, but I just don't think they do. Nvidia unleashed their weapon of choice (GTX 680), and it took out AMD's performance and power advantage in one swift stroke. We knew the GTX 690 was going to be powerful, but what is surprising is the low power usage for what it is.
Seriously, I want AMD to bounce back, but Nvidia has truly beaten them in virtually every metric with the GTX 690.

Do metrics really matter when performance is the most important thing. You just don't know how good GCN is. Compare HD 2900 and HD 4800. This is a Ferrari. It will interest those with big budget. People want GTRs. Price really killed this generation. Its like back to 8800 days.
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I'm somewhat concerned with AMD focusing so much on APUs/HSA though. I don't want their gaming performance or performance per watt to slip.
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Do metrics really matter when performance is the most important thing. You just don't know how good GCN is. Compare HD 2900 and HD 4800. This is a Ferrari. It will interest those with big budget. People want GTRs. Price really killed this generation. Its like back to 8800 days.

What? You just contradicted yourself. If it's purely about performance, then the GTX 690 is absolutely justified with its price. It's within 2-4% the performance of 2x GTX 680s in SLI while consuming 20% less power and includes an extra power phase per GPU core. And yet you're spouting off again about the price..Lol?. rolleyes.gif
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Do metrics really matter when performance is the most important thing. You just don't know how good GCN is. Compare HD 2900 and HD 4800. This is a Ferrari. It will interest those with big budget. People want GTRs. Price really killed this generation. Its like back to 8800 days.

Which is why I am scarred ****less to think what the 8000/700 series will be priced at. It's looking bleak, but hopefully prices won't be too far from what the flagships are today.
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