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uhh no.
Crysis = Crysis Warhead > Crysis 2
fix'd.

No chance, i played like 10 times trough all of this games, the texutres/leafs in Warhead are disgusting, all is brownish and looks ugly, compared to that Crysis = foilage/leafs/textures looks alot better, just try it out and focus on what i said and you will see.
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I would still play all those "other" games even if I had another 680 or a 690. I don't buy cards just to play/bench Crysis or Metro. I buy the card because I know I will be able to crank up almost all settings in almost all games without issues and in future games, that will be more demanding, I will not have to worry. It isn't all just about getting high FPS in Crysis. It is still pretty playable at ~30-45 FPS that you could achieve with older cards. Hell, I played the Diablo 3 beta and my card downclocked to 650 Mhz core to keep 60 FPS. Does that mean I shouldn't even care about Diablo 3 because it isn't demanding enough?
In other words...you can play any game you want with 680's SLI or a 690. thumb.gif


I agree, but the fps are quite a bit slower then 7970/Crossfire in the games i ponited, as Anand review shows, heck GTX690 even lose to GTX590 in those games because of the 256 bit memory interface, i know i'm overracting a bit, but thats the true, even your 100% right when you say that you can play any game with those cards.
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Id agree the card is overpriced. If any card is worthy of being a grand though this is it.

I think Anandtech summed it up pretty well:
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For all practical purposes the GTX 690 is a single card GTX 680 SLI – a single card GTX 680 SLI that consumes noticeably less power under load and is at least marginally quieter too.

With that said, this would typically be the part of the review where we would inject a well-placed recap of the potential downsides of multi-GPU technology; but in this case there’s really no need. Unlike the GTX 590 and unlike the GTX 295 NVIDIA is not making a performance tradeoff here compared to their single-GPU flagship card. When SLI works the GTX 690 is the fastest card out there, and when SLI doesn’t work the GTX 690 is still the fastest card out there. For the first time in a long time using a dual-GPU card doesn’t mean sacrificing single-GPU performance, and that’s a game changer.

At this point in time NVIDIA offers two different but compelling solutions for ultra-enthusiast performance; the GTX 690 and GTX 680 SLI, and they complement each other well. For most situations the GTX 690 is going to be the way to go thanks to its lower power consumption and lower noise levels, but for cases that need fully exhausting video cards the GTX 680 SLI can offer the same gaming performance at the same price. Unfortunately we’re going to have to put AMD out of the running here; as we’ve seen in games like Crysis and Metro the 7970 in Crossfire has a great deal of potential, but as it stands Crossfire is simply too broken overall to recommend.

The only real question I suppose is simply this: is the GTX 690 worthy of its $999 price tag? I don’t believe there’s any argument to be had with respect to whether the GTX 690 is worth getting over the GTX 680 SLI, as we’ve clearly answered that above. As a $999 card it doesn’t double the performance of the $499 GTX 680, but SLI has never offered quite that much of a performance boost. However at the same time SLI has almost always been good enough to justify the cost of another GPU if you must have performance better than what the fastest single GPU can provide, and this is one of those times.

Is $999 expensive? Absolutely. Is it worth it? If you’re gaming at 2560x1600 or 5760x1200, the GTX 690 is at least worth the consideration. You can certainly get by on less, but if you want 60fps or better and you want it with the same kind of ultra high quality single GPU cards can already deliver at 1920x1080, then you can’t do any better than the GTX 690.

Nvidia isn't offering the GTX 690 as an "affordable" solution. They're aiming for the sky and pulling the trigger. They've marketed it in exactly that regard. IMO, the price is justified if, as what these reviews are showing us, the performance difference between the GTX 690 and GTX 680s in SLI is at worst only 5%. And you're consuming considerably less power and outputting less heat. Sounds fair to me.
     
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Micro stuttering

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http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2012/test-nvidia-geforce-gtx-690/8/#abschnitt_mikroruckler
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In order to distinguish the lines better, we recommend to click on the desired selection, so the lines are in bold.

It can be difficult to see that the frame distribution is for a single GPU configuration best: Complete is identical to frame output on the GeForce GTX 690 does not, however, can be in Serious Sam 3, which is very sensitive to micro stuttering, detect a halt . Quite different from AMD's Crossfire: What the chart "wild" look (the frame is output alternately 15-62 milliseconds), also feels the same to. At 30 frames per second Serious Sam 3 is in Crossfire mode unplayable. As of 40 frames per second it gets a little better, really easy to play but the title is only at 50 FPS. In other games, the effect is less pronounced extent, present in the basic form but the same. The Crossfire team dubbed consisting of two Radeon HD 7970 cards these disadvantage mostly by the very large capacity.

With the GeForce GTX 680 in SLI mode can see the frame Times not only significantly better (frame Issue 49-21 milliseconds), but it feels even better. Although you can feel the stuttering at 30 FPS without further notice, starting at 40 frames per second, but they are as good as gone. Playable from the Title 40 FPS and even 30 frames per second is let stand for a short time.

The results of the GeForce GTX 690 have surprised us. Because the frame is distributed from 42 to 29 milliseconds which is again clearly better than in the normal SLI system. Even at 30 frames per second, we can see only a minimal difference to the single GPU configuration, which are so completely playable! In other titles, repeated this result, it is therefore justified not only with the game.

To what extent the improved performance is to transfer the micro stuttering in the future to other Kepler graphics card, unfortunately we can only guess, since Nvidia does not wish to comment further about the feature. In addition, we can not check whether the launch of the GeForce GTX 690 driver behavior also shows a normal SLI configuration, since we currently have no second GeForce GTX 680 card.

As mentioned Serious Sam 3 is an extreme case in terms of micro stuttering. Other games but also show the phenomenon, but to a lesser extent.
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Can we please not let this thread degrade into a 7970 CF vs. GTX 680 SLI vs. GTX 690 flame fest?

I'm all for competition, but it doesn't take much figuring to figure out that the GTX 690 is in a class of its own right now... and now I'm going to get flamed because CF HD 7970 and SLI GTX 680 matches (or beats) the GTX 690. Lets try and make heads and tails of this situation.

GTX 690: $1000, 300-watt TDP, low noise, single card - one PCIe slot
GTX 680 SLI: $1000, 380ish watt TDP (192-watts per card), low noise, 2 cards - 2 PCIe slots
HD 7970 CF: $960 (stock), 420-watt TDP (210-watts per card), noise dependent on cooling solution, 2 cards - 2 PCIe slots.


Now, if we crunch the numbers, the GTX 680 SLI is the same price as the GTX 690. Availability for both is crap right now, so that doesn't add or take away from the value of either card. However, the equivalent of 2 cards (+/- 2%) in one card plus the far lower TDP is a HUGE selling point for the GTX 690.

IMO, if you're looking for SLI GTX 680's, that sort of makes SLI 680's a moot point. You should just get the GTX 690. There's very few reasons to get a GTX 680 SLI setup now. The GTX 690 just seems superior by comparison.

And the CF 7970... maybe drivers will fix those cards, but if not, unless you're going multi-monitor hi-rez, you can forget about the HD 7970 CF setup now.

And for everyone balking at the price, it's virtually equal to dual GTX 680's, uses less power, and it costs THE SAME!!! You guys really are losing perspective on that point. The GTX 590 was not even close to equal to two GTX 580's, and the HD 6990 was double the price of the HD 6970. It really does make sense.
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Micro stuttering
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In order to distinguish the lines better, we recommend to click on the desired selection, so the lines are in bold.
It can be difficult to see that the frame distribution is for a single GPU configuration best: Complete is identical to frame output on the GeForce GTX 690 does not, however, can be in Serious Sam 3, which is very sensitive to micro stuttering, detect a halt . Quite different from AMD's Crossfire: What the chart "wild" look (the frame is output alternately 15-62 milliseconds), also feels the same to. At 30 frames per second Serious Sam 3 is in Crossfire mode unplayable. As of 40 frames per second it gets a little better, really easy to play but the title is only at 50 FPS. In other games, the effect is less pronounced extent, present in the basic form but the same. The Crossfire team dubbed consisting of two Radeon HD 7970 cards these disadvantage mostly by the very large capacity.
With the GeForce GTX 680 in SLI mode can see the frame Times not only significantly better (frame Issue 49-21 milliseconds), but it feels even better. Although you can feel the stuttering at 30 FPS without further notice, starting at 40 frames per second, but they are as good as gone. Playable from the Title 40 FPS and even 30 frames per second is let stand for a short time.
The results of the GeForce GTX 690 have surprised us. Because the frame is distributed from 42 to 29 milliseconds which is again clearly better than in the normal SLI system. Even at 30 frames per second, we can see only a minimal difference to the single GPU configuration, which are so completely playable! In other titles, repeated this result, it is therefore justified not only with the game.
To what extent the improved performance is to transfer the micro stuttering in the future to other Kepler graphics card, unfortunately we can only guess, since Nvidia does not wish to comment further about the feature. In addition, we can not check whether the launch of the GeForce GTX 690 driver behavior also shows a normal SLI configuration, since we currently have no second GeForce GTX 680 card.
As mentioned Serious Sam 3 is an extreme case in terms of micro stuttering. Other games but also show the phenomenon, but to a lesser extent.

Yeah, I think Nvidia introduced Frame Metering in the GTX 690 to eliminate micro stuttering as much as possible and to make it imperceptible. Surprised that the overall results of the GTX 690 is better than the GTX 680 SLI rig. Although...Serious Sam...is in no way, shape or form like any other game EVER made with how ridiculously sensitive it is to frame lag/microstuttering. It's almost hard to take it "SERIOUSly." tongue.gif
     
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I dont really care if people are gonna laugh at me. But, i'd probably get this card this summer for 1080p gaming if things go all right. And you can bet, that i am 100% serious.

In case of demanding games i see the GTX690 being almost able to hit and stay at 120 FPS. Which is exactly what i need. I expect 3D performance to be as good.
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Nice piece. a grand is crazy! glad they got the performance scaling down very well
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Holy Jesus that card is putting out some seriously impressive numbers! Incredible thing!

BUT... the price...
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I dont really care if people are gonna laugh at me. But, i'd probably get this card this summer for 1080p gaming if things go all right. And you can bet, that i am 100% serious.
In case of demanding games i see the GTX690 being almost able to hit and stay at 120 FPS. Which is exactly what i need. I expect 3D performance to be as good.

Not laughable at all if you're running a 120Hz monitor. I've seen some people running a single 1050 x 1650, 60Hz monitor considering purchasing this solely for gaming. Now that's laughable. But to each their own.
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Super impressive card. There hasn't been a dual GPU card until now that matched the performance of 2 single cards in SLI. The price, while steep, is justified, because it performs on par with a setup that costs the same amount (SLI 680s). It is unfortunate that this won't drive AMD prices down any further, but so be it.

Well done nVidia, I was worried that fab problems would eventually be your demise. Not going to worry about that if you keep producing consistently awesome cards.
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Logitech G500 
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AMD PII X4 965BE MSI 790FX-GD70 ASUS HD 4850  G.Skill Ripjaws 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Intel X25-V WD Caviar Blue Samsung S222A Thermalright Venomous-X 
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Windows 7 64 Home Samsung S23A Corsair TX750W NZXT Source 210 Black 
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MX 518 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Lapped e2180@3.0GHz Gigabyte GA-G41M-ES2L 9500GT Patriot DDR2@800MHz 
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