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If AMD can keep clocks up they can certainly be competitive. AMD's big advantage is they still support voltage adjustment so there cards will OC better. They really need to fix their CF drivers though.
    
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If AMD can sort out the scaling with a few games ( BF3 and Batman ) then Nvidia are in trouble when the 7990 releases.
No voltage adjustment is poor and performance in general compared to 7970 CF is nothing but average.
AMD can easily pull the crown back with the 7990...
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The higher power consumption and heat that the 7970 generates will definitely make things difficult for AMD. It's not even remotely close to being "easy."

The chip performs great, but power consumption and heat are huge factors in dual GPU cards. There's a good reason why we've not heard practically anything about the 7990. It'd require some rigorous binning at the very least in order to be competitive.
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The 7970 has basically the same power and thermal envelope as the 6970 (Slightly higher power usage). The thing AMD has going for them is the 6990 was also very close to 6970CF performance. It had a switch that would put the core clock to stock 6970 levels. If AMD is able to replicate this again they can put a decent card out. I'd imagine though the 7990 will ship with clocks in the 900 range give or take 10-15 mhz. If they are over 900 the card will be pretty beastly assuming decent drivers. If they are under 900 it won't look so hot compared to the 690 at least at stock.
    
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The thing here for nvidia is not about gouging their customers but making sure they don't cannibalize their own market... They currently have a flag ship 680 at $500. From a business standpoint it make 0 sense to release the dual gpu card based on two of these and performs the same at any less then twice the price. They know they have customers that have been waiting to SLI 680s if the stock was actually available. They simply waited until the 690 was ready to be released and gave their customers the choice. One gpu for 500, two for 1000. If someone wants to spend 500 now and 500 later the 680 is a great choice. If someone is going for the SLI setup and has 1k to drop on gpu's then the 690 is the choice for them.

I really don't understand why everyone thinks 1k is insane. Anything less and everyone would be jumping all over this card saying how it is the best deal you can get early adopters of 680s would feel ripped off and 680 sales would really suffer. Most of it is based off the rumour that another card is around the corner (big kepler) but another card is always around the corner... That is how technology works. No one is sure if the 685 is real. It could very well be released in a year as the 780 and then everyone is gonna be upset on how Nvidia "held back"
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The 7970 has basically the same power and thermal envelope as the 6970 (Slightly higher power usage). The thing AMD has going for them is the 6990 was also very close to 6970CF performance. It had a switch that would put the core clock to stock 6970 levels. If AMD is able to replicate this again they can put a decent card out. I'd imagine though the 7990 will ship with clocks in the 900 range give or take 10-15 mhz. If they are over 900 the card will be pretty beastly assuming decent drivers. If they are under 900 it won't look so hot compared to the 690 at least at stock.

I'd say the clocks on the 7990 will be more in the 850-880MHz range. To compete in terms of acoustics, thermals and power consumption AMD needs to cut back a whole lot more than nVidia had to. The 6990 was already cutting it close with respect to thermals and acoustics.

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A full clocked CF'ed 7970 already lags behind the 690 so I don't think the 7990 will counter in terms of performance. I did read around on the forums that Tahiti really dislikes heat and is prone to artifacting in a number of cases. I think pricing is the key to succes for the 7990. Other than that it has physics against it.
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This card.. it's so beautiful. I'm not just talking about the looks. exhappysmiley.png
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When I was hearing of 1.2 GHz 680s, I was thinking much more then a mear 11-17% performance increases. Heh.

690 looks like a good card. 1200 on air, stock cooler, 75% fan speed, really darn good!
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When I was hearing of 1.2 GHz 680s, I was thinking much more then a mear 11-17% performance increases. Heh.
690 looks like a good card. 1200 on air, stock cooler, 75% fan speed, really darn good!

They didn't get 1200 stable on air...So far, the highest is 1100 on air...

That's kind of a big deal compared to 680's that can hit 1300-1400 on water.

I realize the 690 on water MAY be able to hit 1200/1300 but, still, the 680's use more power because they have a higher boost/capabilities so, there are valid reasons as to why it uses more power...
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They didn't get 1200 stable on air...So far, the highest is 1100 on air...
That's kind of a big deal compared to 680's that can hit 1300-1400 on water.
I realize the 690 on water MAY be able to hit 1200/1300 but, still, the 680's use more power because they have a higher boost/capabilities so, there are valid reasons as to why it uses more power...


"H" got it stable at 1202mhz on air for hours. It crashed at 1233.

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