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I am still yet to see an actual negative thing against Origin. Honestly, all I have seen is: People moaning about prices of games/The overlay is missing a couple of features/people don't want another "Steam".
Prices of games? Just buy from Amazon, or any other Retail store.
Missing Features? That is the point of why EA/Origin are asking people for suggestions, let me remind you all... Origin is still in Beta.
People not wanting another Steam? How about GFWL? or Capsule? Or any other for that matter. I use them all, and the only one that I have ever had problems with is Games For windows Live.
Everyone is just making up excuses to get rid of Origin for no explainable reasons.
I, myself, will continue to use Origin, I will continue to enjoy games that are released for us. /Rant


so you havent read the EULA then.


The EULA is downright Draconian!
 
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I dont know if any of you read the comments on the actual EA site.
the best one was this (it was also the one with the most likes)
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CharlieUtter

(1) I like the uninstaller.(2) Please add a feature to purchase and play EA games through Steam.

That comment was mentioned in the article lol.

What is quite telling after reading the comments, is that the vast majority is basically just raging Valve/Steam fanboys attempting to protect their own interests, many of which contradict themselves horribly e.g:
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I dont like anything about Origin. Steam does everything 10 times better so get on that or stop with the stupid drm that is destroying gaming, Having to start Origin every time i wanna play BF3 made me not play it anymore. This is also why i will buy no more BF games or expansions... Untill you stop Origin.

Complaining about DRM destroying gaming, while defending the same Steam DRM style that Origin is a clone of, while complaining that he doesn't like having to start up third party apps every time he wants to play certain games. But btw can you allow your games to "get on" Steam so I can use the third party app to launch my games on DRM that is destroying gaming kplxthnx?

Another large majority is people lecturing EA on how cruel and horrid it is to gain user base for your client by requiring them to use it for games that they publish, then they go on to praise Steam as if they weren't around when Valve literally did the exact same thing when Steam launched and continue to make their games unavailable to people who do not have or do not want Steam, to this day.

If raging Valve/Steam fanboys (not to be confused with people who accept Steam without having an umbilical cord attached) were the majority of gamers, I'd think EA would have some serious problems on their hands, but I'd say that most people are smarter than that.
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so you havent read the EULA then.
The EULA is downright Draconian!

Which part of it?
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inviting them to give feedback is one thing, if you ask me, but doing something about the many complaints in that feedback is another entirely.
 
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Which part of it?


the part that says Origin has the right to access any data on your computer. ANY DATA ON YOUR COMPUTER and upload it to their servers for dissemination. If amazon or any other major company did that there would be rioting in the streets.
 
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the part that says Origin has the right to access any data on your computer. ANY DATA ON YOUR COMPUTER and upload it to their servers for dissemination. If amazon or any other major company did that there would be rioting in the streets.

*gasp*

Really? It says that?

Can you show me where?

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*gasp*
Really? It says that?
Can you show me where?
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source

saving you the trouble of reading it all
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2. Consent to Collection and Use of Data.
You agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and
related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol 37683v1
Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to
successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral
hardware, that may be gathered periodically to facilitate the provision of software
updates, dynamically served content, product support and other services to you,
including online services
. EA may also use this information combined with
personal information for marketing purposes and to improve our products and
services. We may also share that data with our third party service providers in a
form that does not personally identify you. IF YOU DO NOT WANT EA TO
COLLECT, USE, STORE, TRANSMIT OR DISPLAY THE DATA DESCRIBED IN
THIS SECTION, PLEASE DO NOT INSTALL OR USE THE APPLICATION.
This and all other data provided to EA and/or collected by EA in connection with
your installation and use of this Application is collected, used, stored and
transmitted in accordance with EA’s Privacy Policy located at www.ea.com. To
the extent that anything in this section conflicts with the terms of EA’s Privacy
Policy, the terms of the Privacy Policy shall control.
 
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source
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Quote:
2. Consent to Collection and Use of Data.
You agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and
related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol 37683v1
Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to
successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral
hardware, that may be gathered periodically to facilitate the provision of software
updates, dynamically served content, product support and other services to you,
including online services
. EA may also use this information combined with
personal information for marketing purposes and to improve our products and
services. We may also share that data with our third party service providers in a
form that does not personally identify you. IF YOU DO NOT WANT EA TO
COLLECT, USE, STORE, TRANSMIT OR DISPLAY THE DATA DESCRIBED IN
THIS SECTION, PLEASE DO NOT INSTALL OR USE THE APPLICATION.
This and all other data provided to EA and/or collected by EA in connection with
your installation and use of this Application is collected, used, stored and
transmitted in accordance with EA’s Privacy Policy located at www.ea.com. To
the extent that anything in this section conflicts with the terms of EA’s Privacy
Policy, the terms of the Privacy Policy shall control.

That's the old EULA.

The new one is:
Quote:
2. Consent to Collection and Use of Data.
EA knows that you care how information about you is collected, used and
shared, and we appreciate your trust that we will do so carefully and sensibly.
Information about our customers is an important part of our business, and EA
would never sell your personally identifiable information to anyone, nor would it
ever use spyware or install spyware on users’ machines. We and agents acting 37683v1
on our behalf do not share information that personally identifies you without your
consent
, except in rare instances where disclosure is required by law or to
enforce EA’s legal rights.

In addition to information that you give EA directly, EA collects nonpersonally identifiable (or anonymous) information for purposes of improving our
products and services, providing services to you, facilitating the provision of
software updates, dynamically served content and product support as well as
communicating with you. The non-personally identifiable information that EA
collects includes technical and related information that identifies your computer
(including the Internet Protocol Address) and operating system, as well as
information about your Application usage (including but not limited to successful
installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware.
As noted above, this information is gathered periodically for purposes such as
improving our products and services, troubleshooting bugs, and otherwise
enhancing your user experience.

This and all other data provided to EA and/or collected by EA in
connection with your installation and use of this Application is collected, used,
stored and transmitted in accordance with EA’s Privacy Policy located at
www.ea.com. To the extent that anything in this section conflicts or is
inconsistent with the terms of EA’s Privacy Policy, the terms of the Privacy Policy
shall control.

So they check your IP address (duh), your applications you have installed (which also helps for auto adding EA games to Origin) and your hardware. All of which is completely unidentifiable as linked to anyone.

But what I asked was for you to show me where as you say, they reserve the right to upload and broadcast to the public "any" data they feel like from your computer. Dodgy porn, stolen government documents, the true answer to life, etc etc etc.

You have simply shown me something similar to the data gathered from the (although optional) Steam survey that also checks your installed apps and hardware or the Steam guard that detects you are logging in from a new computer.

Where is the part where they can apparently upload and broadcast anything they want from your PC?
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Its none of their effing business what I have installed thankyou.


Steam hasnt consistently violated my trust. Secondly, it only checks for a list of pre approved applications not ANY application a LIST of applications.
 
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Origin in itself is okay, but completely unnecessary. People don't hate origin because origin, people hate origin for EA holding their games hostage and forcing us to use their client just because them and valve didn't agree on something. I'm like 67% positive that Battlefield 3 could've sold at least 4x more than it did if it were on steam.
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I actually like Origin, only thing it is missing is the overlay clock. Uses near the same resources as steam, just doesn't have as many games on it.....yet.
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