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You're the one that brought newegg into this - clearly you're the one that's clueless.
I said it doesn't exist - it's pretty damn obvious to anyone with an iota of intelligence that I meant that in the since that it doesn't exist in any relevant sense. If it's not on the market, it doesn't matter.

Exactly, I was correcting your wrong. Just because its not on the market, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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Exactly, I was correcting your wrong. Just because its not on the market, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Its existence is still irrelevant. Which was my point.
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I am laughing at all of this BS as I sit here looking at my supermicro X9DBL dual socket 1356 motherboard waiting for procs....(the cpu's will not be here until the 14th...)

So these motherboards do exist. Supermicro has several models based on the 1356 socket (also known as B2). Some are single processor, some are dual. This system will be going to one of our customers for eval, along with a similar model based on the 2011 (or "R") socket.

Gigabyte also has a model based on the 1356 (GA-7PESE I think), but I have not been able to get a sample yet. They may be waiting for the processors to launch, not sure though. They have been unusually quiet about this board when normally my rep would be on the phone asking how many we want for eval...(we have several customers that do performance and qualification testing on several motherboard brands).
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So these motherboards do exist.

That's been established - thanks. The platform is still currently irrelevant.
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That's been established - thanks. The platform is still currently irrelevant.

That depends on your needs. A dual processor server board has better IO performance than a single proc multi core motherboard....
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FYI this is more suited to very small servers and business computers.

 

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The main difference between LGA 2011 and LGA 1356 is 2 Intel QuickPath Interconnect (QPI)s connections on the LGA 2011 and 1 QPI connection on the LGA 1356. Other noticeable differences include 24 lanes of PCI Express (PCI-e) version 3.0 connections compared to 40 lanes on the LGA 2011, and three channels of DDR3 support compared to four on the LGA 2011. Each DDR3 channel can support one more DIMM (only applicable to DDR3 and not DDR3-L).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1356

 

It's basically a gimped version of LGA 2011.

    
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That depends on your needs. A dual processor server board has better IO performance than a single proc multi core motherboard....

In this case, hardly, if at all. The price/performance will lean GREATLY in the single quad core triple-channel chip either way. Plus, anybody running applications that requires high I/O performance will NOT be buying a couple dual core Pentium chips.

The fact still remains that these are low-end dual-core "server" chips with triple channel memory controllers that, by the sounds of things, will be able to run two processors on a board. ...Which is the most random platform design I've ever heard. I cannot fathom an application for this where a single quad wouldn't be money better spent.

There must be something amiss with this article.

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Unless somehow they are going to market this as "expandability." I suppose someone could by one for now, and then if they need the power later just grab another one. However, this still strikes me as odd simply because someone going for a budget server build probably would avoid the server mobo's entirely and end up with an i3. The most expensive component often isn't the chip, but the dual proc boards.
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So Intel is introducing a dual core processor that's extremely slow and requires a lot more power than modern quad cores? Pointless, just buy a low end Sandy Bridge to do the same job, and it will probably be quicker and cost less in the long run.
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So Intel is introducing a dual core processor that's extremely slow and requires a lot more power than modern quad cores? Pointless, just buy a low end Sandy Bridge to do the same job, and it will probably be quicker and cost less in the long run.

Everything you said is wrong. It's a Sandy Bridge-E chip, and has a triple channel memory controller which gives it the high 80W TDP, and as stated in the article is suited towards business users. It will also be MUCH cheaper than anything in the current line-up.


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In this case, hardly, if at all. The price/performance will lean GREATLY in the single quad core triple-channel chip either way. Plus, anybody running applications that requires high I/O performance will NOT be buying a couple dual core Pentium chips.
The fact still remains that these are low-end dual-core "server" chips with triple channel memory controllers that, by the sounds of things, will be able to run two processors on a board. ...Which is the most random platform design I've ever heard. I cannot fathom an application for this where a single quad wouldn't be money better spent.
There must be something amiss with this article.
EDIT:
Unless somehow they are going to market this as "expandability." I suppose someone could by one for now, and then if they need the power later just grab another one. However, this still strikes me as odd simply because someone going for a budget server build probably would avoid the server mobo's entirely and end up with an i3. The most expensive component often isn't the chip, but the dual proc boards.
BTW: The info I just got from supermicro indicates that there will be 6 and 8 core versions of this processor.

The processors we have been given an SKU for are 6 and 8 core procs with HT. E5-2430L = 6 core E5-2450L = 8 core.

I think there is something wrong with the article. I didn't even see a dual core version available to purchase.
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