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ncix's site sucks, sort by price includes after MIRs. Be lucky you don't have to pay 12% HST on everything you buy americans.

You clearly missed the point of what he said. It's not so much referring others to NCIX, but referring them to somewhere OTHER than NewEgg is the point.

Sure they made their profits now by price gouging, but this will lead to less long term customer loyalty, which WAS his point.
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Still overpriced. Maybe 799-850. Funny, this is one of the biggest disappointments for me, as graphics really haven't improved, and they are charging 20%+ more this generation. I guess I shall wait and see how the 670's perform if not i think ill just wait to see papa kepler.

Do you mean that gaming graphics haven't improved or the graphic capacity of the newer generation cards? As for price, 999 USD is the suggested price, pretty much the price for 2x gtx 680 and they have similar performance, with the gtx 690 being quieter and consuming less power.
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You clearly missed the point of what he said. It's not so much referring others to NCIX, but referring them to somewhere OTHER than NewEgg is the point.
Sure they made their profits now by price gouging, but this will lead to less long term customer loyalty, which WAS his point.

Exactly. thumb.gif

The more mind-boggling thing is, unless NewEgg is in any sort of danger of going completely under (which they're not), I really don't see a reason why they need to do this. They make more than enough as-is.

But if it turns out that underneath it all they ARE crumbling, I apologize since price gouging would be a survival instinct. Again, I highly doubt it though.
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They price gouge so the item isn't gone within 1 second of listing. Demand = higher price, basic economics.
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Exactly. thumb.gif
The more mind-boggling thing is, unless NewEgg is in any sort of danger of going completely under (which they're not), I really don't see a reason why they need to do this. They make more than enough as-is.
But if it turns out that underneath it all they ARE crumbling, I apologize since price gouging would be a survival instinct. Again, I highly doubt it though.

No, no way they are crumbling. If anything, they are getting stronger. It makes more sense to see this as "power corrupts" if that makes sense albeit in different terms. Not trying to be rude to Newegg, but it just seems to fit the bill. I may be over reacting as this is just one item out of millions that I paid attention to. Maybe just biased and pissed at moment.
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Why would you need IB for pcie 3.0? SB can do pcie 3.0 as long as the motherboard has the proper PLX chip.

There is no PLX chip that will give you PCIE 3.0 support, it will give you more PCIE lanes but you need Ivy for 3.0 bandwidth.
Edited by pengs - 5/3/12 at 9:42pm
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They price gouge so the item isn't gone within 1 second of listing. Demand = higher price, basic economics.

So, in other words...you managed to miss my point. Entirely. Even though a few other people comprehended it just fine. My argument was not against the basic economics of supply and demand. I clearly stated the GTX 690 is a current, hot-ticket item, and that a 20% markup is not surprising. In other words, of course they can charge $200 more, because the card is in high demand.

With me so far? Good.

My point was, with as much money as NewEgg ALREADY MAKES by NOT PRICE GOUGING ON OTHER HARDWARE, why risk doing this for $200 extra per card? I can't imagine that they had a large enough supply to begin with, as they sold out in what...13-14 minutes? They are arguably the LARGEST e-tailer of computer electronics, again, BY FAR. They already make a crap ton of money.

One would think that, knowing the 690 is a hot-ticket item, NewEgg wouldn't put it EVEN FURTHER out of the reach of some of their customers by charging even more (again, unnecessarily). One would think that, retaining customer loyalty by selling at MSRP (which is a big reason some distributors/resellers go under - always charging a huge amount over MSRP) and making a hard-to-find item more accessible people would be more inclined to shop at and STAY with NewEgg. Instead, you risk people being annoyed and in some instances, offended by cheap tactics, and they take their business elsewhere, possibly for life.

Still following? Alright then.

Marginal profits from temporary price hikes is not worth the far larger potential losses from losing loyal customers. Basic economics. NewEgg makes money, and a lot of it, not because they have to hike up prices, but because they buy in bulk from manufacturers at huge discounts and sell for MSRP and still make substantial profits. They shouldn't have to take advantage of hot-ticket items and risk spurning loyal customers. And it is worrying because they have been doing this with various items for a while now, including items that aren't even hard to get, but might just be popular.
Edited by jcde7ago - 5/3/12 at 9:37pm
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So, in other words...you managed to miss my point. Entirely. Even though a few other people comprehended it just fine. My argument was not against the basic economics of supply and demand. I clearly stated the GTX 690 is a current, hot-ticket item, and that a 20% markup is not surprising. In other words, of course they can charge $200 more, because the card is in high demand.
With me so far? Good.
My point was, with as much money as NewEgg ALREADY MAKES by NOT PRICE GOUGING ON OTHER HARDWARE, why risk doing this for $200 extra per card? I can't imagine that they had a large enough supply to begin with, as they sold out in what...13-14 minutes?They are arguably the LARGEST e-tailer of computer electronics, again, BY FAR. They already make a crap ton of money.
One would think that, knowing the 690 is a hot-ticket item, NewEgg wouldn't put it EVEN FURTHER out of the reach of some of their customers by charging even more (again, unnecessarily). One would think that, retaining customer loyalty by selling at MSRP (which is a big reason some distributors/resellers go under - always charging a huge amount over MSRP) and making a hard-to-find item more accessible people would be more inclined to shop at and STAY with NewEgg. Instead, you risk people being annoyed and in some instances, offended by cheap tactics, and they take their business elsewhere, possibly for life.
Still following? Alright then.
Marginal profits from temporary price hikes is not worth the far larger potential losses from losing loyal customers. Basic economics. NewEgg makes money, and a lot of it, not because they have to hike up prices, but because they buy in bulk from manufacturers at huge discounts and sell for MSRP and still make substantial profits. They shouldn't have to take advantage of hot-ticket items and risk spurning loyal customers. And it is worrying because they have been doing this with various items for a while now, including items that aren't even hard to get, but might just be popular.

Well.. even with the overcharging newegg has the best service and the best user interface. I can't see people not wanting to use it, they won't ever die even if they use dishonest prices.
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Well.. even with the overcharging newegg has the best service and the best user interface. I can't see people not wanting to use it, they won't ever die even if they use dishonest prices.

Best service means nothing when you can't even buy the product you want because it's marked up 20+% in cost. Which means the best user interface doesn't matter when you don't want to use it to look for that product you want to buy that you can't afford because they're overcharging. And then you take your loyalty elsewhere, while the desperate person who overpaid on NewEgg ONE TIME for that ONE ITEM never goes back again, while you would have kept coming back had they just been honest about the pricing.

And again, I was commenting on how this seems like the start of a trend they've been on for months now. If they continue doing this, you can bet that they're going to see a substantial drop in customers, especially the ones that spend the most on them. You're naive if you think a business can survive on the basis of overcharging for EVERYTHING (unless you're Apple, but this is somewhat of a different story, so let's not go there tongue.gif ).
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I will perfer 2x 680 instead of a $1200 card..
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