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I am not a professional at all. I make very little use of its functionality. I'd just love to be able to merge linked layers, or select multiple layers so that I can move or delete them.
That isn't going to be a concern for Windows converts else they wouldn't be running Windows already. Those who do care about this are probably already using GIMP smile.gif

I'm pretty sure one can write a script that adds that functionality, but yeah that is a glaring omission.
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I always go back to some Linux distros, and always use Puppy or Xubuntu or something similar on an old laptop or other devices, but I could never use it as my main OS.

I still see it a hobbyist OS as far as simple things go. I find fun in doing things in a different way (via packet manager or via the terminal) but not all people do.

I always get turned off using Linux based OS's. Problems still persist. The lack of self-installing executables is somewhat baffling, but that's not really my problem. The drivers for my video card are easier to get than ever.

The thing that really annoys me is the cursed Flash plugin and all its side-products. I mean... It's a nightmare. I am not a newbie, and even with the help of Google etc. I always have problems getting the bastard to work.

My point is, very steep learning curve for basic things, good for advanced stuff. Windows has a bigger audience, way more enterprise-level native software, and all and all, a more unified experience. Linux definitely feels more robust, lighter and more flexible for doing things. Little minor things ruin the experience, as I said earlier. (Why isn't there a "Computer" folder... Must I really go at the path on my own? Okay okay, I'll stop now..)
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I always go back to some Linux distros, and always use Puppy or Xubuntu or something similar on an old laptop or other devices, but I could never use it as my main OS.
I still see it a hobbyist OS as far as simple things go. I find fun in doing things in a different way (via packet manager or via the terminal) but not all people do.
I always get turned off using Linux based OS's. Problems still persist. The lack of self-installing executables is somewhat baffling, but that's not really my problem. The drivers for my video card are easier to get than ever.
The thing that really annoys me is the cursed Flash plugin and all its side-products. I mean... It's a nightmare. I am not a newbie, and even with the help of Google etc. I always have problems getting the bastard to work.
My point is, very steep learning curve for basic things, good for advanced stuff. Windows has a bigger audience, way more enterprise-level native software, and all and all, a more unified experience. Linux definitely feels more robust, lighter and more flexible for doing things. Little minor things ruin the experience, as I said earlier. (Why isn't there a "Computer" folder... Must I really go at the path on my own? Okay okay, I'll stop now..)

I think you need to understand that Linux is not Windows. Of course things are going to be different, with some changes being for the better and some being for the worse.
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(Why isn't there a "Computer" folder... Must I really go at the path on my own? Okay okay, I'll stop now..)

Nautilus (the default GNOME file manager) has a "Computer" directory I believe. On Linux it doesn't really make a lot of sense anyway, since you don't have multiple filesystems spanning multiple partitions, but rather a single filesystem with directories that may or may not be the mount point for a partition. Windows has traditionally exposed a more physical layout of the filesystem (less so in Win 7 with libraries), while Linux exposes a logical structure.

Then again, Windows would also have you believe that the Desktop also contains all drives on the system while itself being a subdirectory. I'm not sure I understand why they did that.
    
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Definitely. That's not the point though, if it's successful then other developers will at least consider Linux versions for more than a joke.
The difference being Adobe doesn't give a crap about whatever shortcuts the rest of the bloody world uses. (Ctrl+T in the browser plugin should still open a new tab. Ctrl+Z should still be undo. Eugh, annoys me so much when I have to work with Flash)

For the record, I hate Dreamweaver. If I'm in Windows I use Emerald Editor or Notepad++ and Filezilla.
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I wonder why they are doing this... is it philantropic ?
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I wonder why they are doing this... is it philantropic ?

Bigger market = moar cash?!
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More TF2 player!!! This is awesome.
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That is only a good idea if it's not a walled garden platform.
This sounds extremely unlikely.
Valve has a choice between making a Linux box and pointing developers to existing APIs (perhaps putting them in an SDK and making it nicer), or writing a whole new set / limiting the existing ones to create a bastardized sub-platform of Linux for the Steam Box (assuming again that they make a Steam Box).
Considering Valve's attitude in general, the goodwill they'll be getting from Linux fans (don't underestimate it), and I believe Newell himself has ranted about locked platforms... I think it'll be Linux in a box with fullscreen Steam.
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If it wasn't for the fact linux could not be used to play games I would have turned away from windows ages ago
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