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Point being, that a Xeon runs cooler.. for a reason. Could it be used for OC? sure. But it runs cooler due to the higher stresses put on it in use as a server processor.

Yes the current Xeons and regular consumer chips are closer than ever to each other, it's good business sense for Intel to do so, from a manufacturing viewpoint.

But these Xeons arent exactly cheap.. I woudl think a Pentium would be cheaper for the same performance.
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hmm interesting..

the Xeon 3070 is listed as a Conroe..yup..

and none of the servers I purchase use it as an option. I can run 5050, 5110-5148's, and 5300's..

The 3070 being LGA 775 could be that it is meant for the small PC server market. But I cant find a medium or large frame, enterprise box that uses it, OR that socket period.

which begs the question.. is it a conroe or a xeon? Most Enterprise sockets are socket 771. Sounds liek this baby Xeon, is really a Conroe, given a Xeon name to maybe make it more attractive to the small machine market? And a way to allow the small guy who makes desktop PC's, to build a server for a small business on a budget and put a XEON sticker on it.. to prove it's a server.

makes sense at least

Check the link.. this is a Desktop workstation using the 771 socket and the Intel 5000 Chipset for servers. note the ram type.. and the CPU.. when you say XEON in a desktop this is what i think of. Not a 775 Socket Conroe with a Xeon name.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883107177
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Let's use an external example here.

nVIDIA GeForce 8800GTX:
The Graphics Card was designed to operate with 1080i HD video in SLI.
1080i HD ideo in SLI hasn't been done before...both SSE instructions and L3 cache CPU's have been around for a long time - you know that. It's not like it was something new and revolutionary. Thats why i'm saying it wouldn't have got past a paper design.

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I am definitely not the only online person who has seen these chips. I have seen some at Overclockers Australia before, and we may have other members on this forum that have these chips
You may even be able to find one on EBay.
You're expecting to find a failed ES chip on ebay...one that only a very small number of people had access to...I don't think so. Selling ES's is illegal, and i'm sure the culprit would be tracked down and have his bottom spanked.

Plus, the only S775 Xeon's on ebay are retail boxes, and therefore L2 cache based.

As for OcAU, quick searches turn up absolutely nothing on S775 xeon's. It's like they don't even know they exist, so again...where did you see them? As for the other forum members? Please step forward now

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The reason why I am unable to provide proof is partly because I do not own a USB drive, and also because of the Security surrounding this machine.
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There may not be a huge amount of physical information, I may have to attempt to purchase a chip from somewhere before I can fully access the information I need.
So you dont have a USB drive, ah well, i wasn't gonna tell you to buy one as times are obviously tight if you cant afford $8. You just gotta accept that you can't prove it's existence then. As for 'there may not be a huge amount of physical information'...well, even thats not correct, there's none. All we have to go on is your word, and at the mo I don't believe you (I will happily hold my hands up and apologise if i'm proven wrong). Thats my opinion, i'm entitled to it, anyone else, make up your own mind.

Now this has dragged on, let's bring this to a close methinks?
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post #114 of 114
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1080i HD ideo in SLI hasn't been done before...both SSE instructions and L3 cache CPU's have been around for a long time - you know that. It's not like it was something new and revolutionary. Thats why i'm saying it wouldn't have got past a paper design.
Supplemental SSE3+ has not been "done" before either
Therefore, yes it is "revolutionary" in your sense

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You're expecting to find a failed ES chip on ebay...one that only a very small number of people had access to...I don't think so. Selling ES's is illegal, and i'm sure the culprit would be tracked down and have his bottom spanked.

Plus, the only S775 Xeon's on ebay are retail boxes, and therefore L2 cache based.

As for OcAU, quick searches turn up absolutely nothing on S775 xeon's. It's like they don't even know they exist, so again...where did you see them? As for the other forum members? Please step forward now
Yes there is an acceptable chance that these chips could be located within the website EBay. The chip themselves are rare, but to my current knowledge there were still a "decent" number of these chips produced.
Did I mention that you could find one on EBay at this present moment in time? I stated that you may be able to find one within its lifetime

I am finding this partially strange, seeing how your mind is closed upon additional ideas, outside of lateral thinking.
I stated that I have seen one on Overclockers Australia. However, did I say that the chip was seen within a thread, or post within that website? I did not, therefore your ability to find this chip is reduced, as search engines only search within certain parts of their website, i.e. threads and posts. I suggest you go looking in members post bits, or equivalent
So I agree with you, I doubt you will find any within threads and posts, as I stated they are rare, and few people can gain acceptable access to these chips. As these chips are Engineering Samples only certain people can have access to them.
I do not know if we have any Intel personnel on this website, therefore I can not truthfully say if anyone else here has seen one. Be assured that I do not own this chip.

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So you dont have a USB drive, ah well, i wasn't gonna tell you to buy one as times are obviously tight if you cant afford $8. You just gotta accept that you can't prove it's existence then. As for 'there may not be a huge amount of physical information'...well, even thats not correct, there's none. All we have to go on is your word, and at the mo I don't believe you (I will happily hold my hands up and apologise if i'm proven wrong). Thats my opinion, i'm entitled to it, anyone else, make up your own mind.

Now this has dragged on, let's bring this to a close methinks?
I acknowledged previously that I am unable to prove its existence myself, at this present moment in time:
"You do not have to believe what you hear of course, I will not tell you to do so, but perhaps if you research deep enough you will realise that some people do have access to information others do not."

As I said you do not have to believe what I state, that is totally your choice. However I suggest you go searching on the internet until you find yourself some acceptable evidence

You need to open your mind more, and not just think of one method of lateral thinking, no offense. Have a nice day

However, I agree, lets call it a day here.

This thread will be re-opened when new information becomes avaliable.
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