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Hello again OCN, so nice to see you again.

I'm back with another build request for the all-wise OCN'ers. My Dad is considering jumping on the new Dell XPS 8500 (Ivy Bridge i5, 8GB RAM, Radeon 7570)
http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=dxcwps1&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&model_id=xps-8500

And I don't want him to get a crappy Dell if he can get a custom built PC (By me) for cheaper!

Can you guys beat this price? If you want to go back to Sandy Bridge i7(There might be deals currently) that is fine with me.



Basically I just need a setup with a good processor(i5 or i7), 8 Gigs of RAM, and a cheap video card would be good (in case he wanted to do dual monitors ever.)

He needs the box and the OS (Windows 7, I'm a college student can I get it cheap?).

Thanks!
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whats the most he will be doing with his computer?
    
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post #3 of 16
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He will be using it for working on another Masters Degree in statistics so he will be running some simulation programs I would imagine and possibly SAS software? I'm not sure exactly but his work laptop has an i7 extreme or something in it so he expects this to be pretty fast.
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post #4 of 16
would really try for a nice ssd, you can get 60gb for around 50$ that is 500mb/s+ read

and would consider just using onboard video unless he needs it for a particular reason. onboard video on new intels will do dual monitor is there is the jacks for it and they are right for your monitors.... so you can save a little there.

you can either get a second hdd for storage or use the ssd in cache mode (which i do not like to do) but some people like that convenience.
gigabyte makes good boards and dont spend more then 70$ powersupply. , it would be a waste
    
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post #5 of 16
If you can get into msdn at your school you can get windows and other software for free...

as for parts, I would do a mixture of newegg/amazon and the classifieds on here.
 
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post #6 of 16
It can be done for less but I'm not going to get all the parts together for you..

Come up with a list of parts you're interested in and I'll gladly help make sure they'll work together well and suit his needs.

An i5 2500K is about $240 a motherboard about $140, ram about $50, basic GPU about $50-75 depending on how basic you want. Case about $50 for a decent mid tower, $30 for a decent aftermarket cooler. $100 for a nice size HD. $100 or so for a 500/600W PSU if you look for one on sale.

That comes to about $700 to $800 and will be a better machine than the dell for sure - it can be upgraded more easily because it won't have a godawful Dell (not standard) case.. it will have better quality components than the dell, and will last longer and perform better than crappy Dell parts.

It can be done a bit cheaper, if necessary.
post #7 of 16
I actually just built my dad a computer with the same budget.
It has 8gb of RAM, a 1.5 TB hdd, an i3, an Agility 3 SSD, a pretty decent mobo, i think a 500 watt PSU, Win 7, and a pretty decent case... Got it all from Microcenter

I apologize for not remembering what everything was exactly.

Edit: his budget was $650, not much lower but it's why i went i3 over i5 and he can always upgrade it later
Edited by Dekaewt - 5/3/12 at 8:55pm
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post #8 of 16
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It can be done for less but I'm not going to get all the parts together for you..
Come up with a list of parts you're interested in and I'll gladly help make sure they'll work together well and suit his needs.
An i5 2500K is about $240 a motherboard about $140, ram about $50, basic GPU about $50-75 depending on how basic you want. Case about $50 for a decent mid tower, $30 for a decent aftermarket cooler. $100 for a nice size HD. $100 or so for a 500/600W PSU if you look for one on sale.
That comes to about $700 to $800 and will be a better machine than the dell for sure - it can be upgraded more easily because it won't have a godawful Dell (not standard) case.. it will have better quality components than the dell, and will last longer and perform better than crappy Dell parts.
It can be done a bit cheaper, if necessary.

no need for GPU imo...

also, I would suggest finding out what programs he uses...he actually might benefit greatly from hyperthreading.
 
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PSU: CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 $34.99 (after $10 rebate)
MOBO: ASRock Z77 Pro4-M mATX Motherboard $109.99
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 $319.99
RAM: G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 $44.99
CASE: Rosewill R101-P-BK mATX Mid Tower $29.99
HDD: SAMSUNG EcoGreen F4 2TB $119.99
DVD Burner: LITE-ON DVD Burner $17.99
GPU: EVGA GT430 (2x DVI ports, 1x Mini HDMI) $69.99

Grand total of:
$757.92 before rebates.

That doesn't include Windows 7 of course, so I'd bump the processor down to a 3550 to open up the money for the OS. (Just wanted to fit an i7 in there, since you named that specifically.) And you of course don't have to get a Z77 board or an Ivy Bridge proc, but since the premade Dell has an Ivy Bridge i5 in it, I wanted to make sure all of the "Beat it" bases were covered.

I'm also sure I'm forgetting something here, but it's getting late.
Edited by itskerby - 5/3/12 at 9:05pm
     
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Originally Posted by itskerby View Post

PSU: CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 $34.99 (after $10 rebate)
MOBO: ASRock Z77 Pro4-M mATX Motherboard $109.99
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 $319.99
RAM: G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 $44.99
CASE: Rosewill R101-P-BK mATX Mid Tower $29.99
HDD: SAMSUNG EcoGreen F4 2TB $119.99
DVD Burner: LITE-ON DVD Burner $17.99
GPU: EVGA GT430 (2x DVI ports, 1x Mini HDMI) $69.99
Grand total of:
$757.92 before rebates.
That doesn't include Windows 7 of course, so I'd bump the processor down to a 3550 to open up the money for the OS. (Just wanted to fit an i7 in there, since you named that specifically.) And you of course don't have to get a Z77 board or an Ivy Bridge proc, but since the premade Dell has an Ivy Bridge i5 in it, I wanted to make sure all of the "Beat it" bases were covered.
I'm also sure I'm forgetting something here, but it's getting late.

Or keep the processor and drop the GPU
 
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