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Originally Posted by Arizonian View Post

To each his own depending on what your using the GPU card for. I don't fold so the compute side means absolutely zero in my decision making. 3D Vision there's only one real choice. Period.
As for in games they are very comparable btw. No hands down winner. I see 7970 Lightnings with voltage bumps in the 7970 club not getting over 1225 MHz core. No driver excuses after 4 months of release.
My 680 gets 1228 MHz even without voltage locks. Many others get past that anywhere in between and up to 1300 MHz core click as well again no voltage bumps required. So back to them being comparable in gaming.
A lot of gaming features over AMD except for zero core. However zero core seems to be an issue working properly and Nvidia dosent have voltage drop problems as it all dynamic up to 1.175v.

Again, hwbot has the average OC of the 680 as ~1180 MHz core and the average OC of the 7970 as ~1200MHz core. Saying that there are many exceptional 680s that will do 1300 MHz is no different than saying that there are many exceptional 7970s that do 1300 MHz. Obviously the 7970 takes more voltage to get there, but that's not super meaningful since A) the 680 is the more power efficient card to begin with, so nothing really changes between the two cards just because the 7970 takes extra voltage & B) the 680 is voltage locked anyways.

If the 680 got close to 1300 MHz as an average OC, then 680 OC would be better than 7970 OC on average. However, it doesn't.

http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/radeon_hd_7970
http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/geforce_gtx_680/
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Fanboyism at its best... cheers.gif
Some of you must be paid either by nVidia or AMD....
Imho and for what I have seeing:
-Stock: 680 >> 7970
-OCed: 680 = 7970
-Efficiency: 680 > 7970
-Computing: 680 << 7970
-Drivers: 680 > 7970
It's just up to the customer what to choose. For me, I don't care about the 7970's computing performance and the 680's higher efficiency. I'm watercooling those monsters, so I'm choosing the one with the lower price. Here, the lowest 7970 is 415€, and the lowest 680 is 470€. So right now, I'm going for 7970. If they had the same price, I'd probably choose the 680

I like this assessment and I agree. I also went 7970 due to price (used price around 680 time release, pain $450 or something, now is as low as $430)
    
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@bigmack70 - I can tell you from many / most of our OCN members that we are on average getting 1200 MHz core GPU boost easily. HW shows average of submitted entries of less than 70 submissions means squat. Come over read for yourself and learn something.

Choose what you want say what you want the 680 is a great gaming card. thumb.gif

Plug and play, no hasell.
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How painfully insightful your posts always seem to be.
Edited by svthomas - 5/7/12 at 1:46pm
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How painfully insightful your posts always seem to be.
How painfully insightful your experiences seem to be rolleyes.gif
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I really want to get a 7970 now. tongue.gif

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Fanboyism at its best... cheers.gif
Some of you must be paid either by nVidia or AMD....
Imho and for what I have seeing:
-Stock: 680 >> 7970
-OCed: 680 = 7970
-Efficiency: 680 > 7970
-Computing: 680 << 7970
-Drivers: 680 > 7970
It's just up to the customer what to choose. For me, I don't care about the 7970's computing performance and the 680's higher efficiency. I'm watercooling those monsters, so I'm choosing the one with the lower price. Here, the lowest 7970 is 415€, and the lowest 680 is 470€. So right now, I'm going for 7970. If they had the same price, I'd probably choose the 680

+1

It seems like people from each side aren't willing to accept they're both great card with roughly equal performance, just different.
 
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I have to say the HD 7970 chip is the better chip compared to GTX 680. Period. I have my own reasons for it.
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1038697867&postcount=78
Gaming Performance in the most demanding games is with HD 7970 OC. Compute performance is with HD 7970. HD 7970 is more future proof and will not run into bandwidth constrained scenarios like GTX 680. Also the fact that we are talking about 1050 Mhz (1250 Mhz OC'd with stock voltage) makes it a much better buy than GTX 680 if priced similarly. thumb.gif

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NVIDIA’s performance in Shogun 2 has undergone a seesaw experience from one driver revision and patch to another. Back when the GTX 680 first launched, it displayed excellent performance in this game but a major patch rolled out on March 22nd seems to have kneecapped framerates across the entire GeForce product range. Scaling from a single card to the GTX 690 remains excellent but AMD absolutely dominates here. We’re told that NVIDIA is actively trying to replicate and address the issue. Considering the quick response they’ve shown to other issues in the past, we have confidence that a solution will be found and rolled out as soon as possible.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/53901-nvidia-geforce-gtx-690-review-16.html
Edited by cold2010 - 5/7/12 at 2:22pm
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NVIDIA’s performance in Shogun 2 has undergone a seesaw experience from one driver revision and patch to another. Back when the GTX 680 first launched, it displayed excellent performance in this game but a major patch rolled out on March 22nd seems to have kneecapped framerates across the entire GeForce product range. Scaling from a single card to the GTX 690 remains excellent but AMD absolutely dominates here. We’re told that NVIDIA is actively trying to replicate and address the issue. Considering the quick response they’ve shown to other issues in the past, we have confidence that a solution will be found and rolled out as soon as possible.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/53901-nvidia-geforce-gtx-690-review-16.html

We will see when the issue is addressed. Also if you notice the GTX 580 hasn't been hit badly. Its the GTX 680 which suffers badly. So " patch seems to have kneecapped framerates across the entire GeForce product range " is not really accurate.
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Idk what all you guys are complaining about, I've gotta buy 4 work station cards for an Inventor rig, each card is more than 2 times one of these gaming GPUs. Who cares we've all seen the benchies they're so close its not even funny. This is good for us because it means the industry is still going strong. Buy what you want and move on. And think for yourself!
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