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1080p
stock 680>7970
OC 7970=680
680>7970 (stability)
cf/sli 7970>680 (raw performance)
cf/sli 680>7970 (smoothness)
680>7970 (actual gaming experience)

higher resolutions...
stock 680>7970
OC 7970=680
eyefinity/ surround 7970>680 (raw performance)
eyefinity/ surround 680>7970 (stability)
cf/sli 7970>680 (raw performance)
cf/sli 680>7970 (smoothness)
680>7970 (actual gaming experience)

drivers:
non surround/eyefinity/cf/sli 7970=680
surround/eyefinty/cf/sli 680>7970
Added some more data and modified some (that which is in bold) based on my experiences using both products at 1080p and 5760x1080...

Also, I removed the bits about eyefinity and surround that you had for 1080p headscratch.gif
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Just curious but by stability you mean drivers right? Otherwise I don't understand what you are trying to say.
    
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Just curious but by stability you mean drivers right? Otherwise I don't understand what you are trying to say.

I'd assume so, surround is far from perfect on either side.
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Just curious but by stability you mean drivers right? Otherwise I don't understand what you are trying to say.
I mean the actual product working as it should (remaining stable) without having to hack the registry, disable sleep, without getting bluescreen of deaths, or reinstalling the OS to change drivers (LOL), etc. This is all due to drivers...yes. That's exactly what I am trying to say: There is more to performance than raw numbers, and it's being weighted improperly in the equation of "performance." Drivers trump any claim of "raw performance," because if the product isn't working properly, well then how can it perform? One could easily equate "actual gaming experience" to "actual performance," then...

Unfortunately, hardware is only good as the software which supports it.

That's just based on what I experienced.
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I mean the actual product working as it should (remaining stable) without having to hack the registry, disable sleep, without getting bluescreen of deaths, or reinstalling the OS to change drivers (LOL), etc. This is all due to drivers...yes. That's exactly what I am trying to say: There is more to performance than raw numbers, and it's being conveniently improperly weighted in the equation of "performance." Drivers trump any claim of "raw performance," because if the product isn't working properly, well then how can it perform?
That's just based on what I experienced.

I am not disagreeing was just curious. I will say though windows reinstalls are not exclusive to either. My 580s did not like 301.24 and i just recently did one myself. I got the bug where your drivers constantly crash and recover which apparently is common I've learned since.
    
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I am not disagreeing was just curious. I will say though windows reinstalls are not exclusive to either. My 580s did not like 301.24 and i just recently did one myself. I got the bug where your drivers constantly crash and recover which apparently is common I've learned since.

I got a whole day of that when I put this new card in. I was on 296.xx. I installed 301.10 and re ran the WEI and it hasn't happened since. still giving me trouble in BF3 though. can't start skyrim either. game crashes on startup and I've removed it and reinstalled twice already. everything else is fine..
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I am not disagreeing was just curious. I will say though windows reinstalls are not exclusive to either. My 580s did not like 301.24 and i just recently did one myself. I got the bug where your drivers constantly crash and recover which apparently is common I've learned since.

Oh, bummer man. I haven't gotten that, but I would have certainly figured it in to my experience with it if I had.

To be honest I am quite bummed about the whole ordeal, I really didn't want to use Nvidia this generation. I honestly believe the 7970 is faster than the 680 in hardware (reference to reference), and Nvidia is only able to provide a similar or better experience this generation due to their superior software. After all, locking the voltage isn't cool. mad.gif But for now, it is what it is, and I would rather not fight software when all I really want to do is chill, relax, and game. This is why I have been so happy with the 680s. So is my experience bias towards those values? Of course. I will admit that. If I didn't have so many stability issues, I would have stayed AMD on the GPU front, just like I did last generation with the 69xx series, even while the 580 series was quite beast.

I cannot say anything negative about the actual hardware, other than reference having a noisy fan. But I normally watercool my GPUs, so I could really care less about that.

To be fair, I am still silently hoping AMD gets their software squared away, and it's why I still have a 7970 sadly collecting dust, and I refuse to sell it. That equals an unhappy GF, and I am running out of excuses to give her about why I am not selling. Or, why I have a spare, second 7970 block. tongue.gif HAHA
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1080p
stock 680>7970
OC 7970=680
680>7970 (stability)
cf/sli 7970>680 (raw performance)
cf/sli 680>7970 (smoothness)
680>7970 (actual gaming experience)

higher resolutions...
stock 680>7970
OC 7970=680
eyefinity/ surround 7970>680 (raw performance)
eyefinity/ surround 680>7970 (stability)
cf/sli 7970>680 (raw performance)
cf/sli 680>7970 (smoothness)
680>7970 (actual gaming experience)

drivers:
non surround/eyefinity/cf/sli 7970=680
surround/eyefinty/cf/sli 680>7970
Added some more data and modified some (that which is in bold) based on my experiences using both products at 1080p and 5760x1080...

Also, I removed the bits about eyefinity and surround that you had for 1080p headscratch.gif


not a bad view, but what i mean is 3x1080p as opposed to 3xsomething higher
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not a bad view, but what i mean is 3x1080p as opposed to 3xsomething higher
AHH, that makes sense. I was confused about why you would have that. Yeah, sorry my experience is only 3x 1080p, I didn't try anything higher in eyefinity or surround than XX by 1080p (5760x1080). My mistake.

In that case, I would believe the 680s would run out of vram with some games, so my experience in higher resolutions is then skewed in that regard.
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Ryzen & Vega
(22 items)
 
Wanted: [Wanted] LGA1155 ITX Motherboard
$75 (USD) or best offer
The Spectre
(28 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
[AMD] Ryzen R7 1700 w/EK Supremacy Evo AMD [MSI] X370 XPower Gaming Titanium [AMD] Vega Flagship GPU [G.Skill] Trident Z RGB 2x8GB @3000MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
500GB M.2 SSD [WD] 2TB Black HDD [NZXT] AER RGB 120 (x7) [NZXT] AER RGB 140 (x1) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
[Barrow] D5 Heatsink/Reservoir/Heatsink [Barrow] White 1/2"x3/4" Compression Fittings [Primochill] Advance LRT Clear 1/2"x3/4" Tubing [Alphacool] NexXxos XT45 360mm 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
[Alphacool] NexXxos Monsta 240mm [Microsoft] Windows 10 Pro x64 [ASUS] MG279 Freesync 1440p IPS [Razer] BlackWidow X Tournament Edition w/Vorte... 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
[Corsair] RM850i w/custom cables [Phanteks] Enthoo Evolv ATX Tempered Glass [Razer] Deathadder Elite [Corsair] MM300 Extended 
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