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So i read through the last 15 pages and didn't see this question asked nor answered:

Is this actually a new upgraded version or are they just doing a factory overclock on the same card? If it's the later, then the 'new' version will have no benefit over the 'old' version when it comes to max overclocks. If it's the former, does anyone have any idea how much overclocking overhead the new version will have over the original? Also, will non-reference cards see any increased performance if this really is a new improved version and not just a renamed factory overclock?
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they are just bumping the stock clocks, not changing anything but the firmware.. i just wonder if their will be a driver update that will allow for higher overclocking in CCC (if the stock clock goes up, shouldn't they "allow" for more overclocking?)
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Oh, bummer man. I haven't gotten that, but I would have certainly figured it in to my experience with it if I had.
To be honest I am quite bummed about the whole ordeal, I really didn't want to use Nvidia this generation. I honestly believe the 7970 is faster than the 680 in hardware (reference to reference), and Nvidia is only able to provide a similar or better experience this generation due to their superior software. After all, locking the voltage isn't cool. mad.gif But for now, it is what it is, and I would rather not fight software when all I really want to do is chill, relax, and game. This is why I have been so happy with the 680s. So is my experience bias towards those values? Of course. I will admit that. If I didn't have so many stability issues, I would have stayed AMD on the GPU front, just like I did last generation with the 69xx series, even while the 580 series was quite beast.
I cannot say anything negative about the actual hardware, other than reference having a noisy fan. But I normally watercool my GPUs, so I could really care less about that.
To be fair, I am still silently hoping AMD gets their software squared away, and it's why I still have a 7970 sadly collecting dust, and I refuse to sell it. That equals an unhappy GF, and I am running out of excuses to give her about why I am not selling. Or, why I have a spare, second 7970 block. tongue.gif HAHA

I totally agree with all your views on the 7970/680 thing. I do think AMD has the better piece of hardware but Nvidia drivers are just so far beyond right now it's hard to make an argument for the 7970. It's a shame to. I downgraded from it back to 580s kind of like you. When the 7970 is running correctly and at 1250mhz full bore it's an amazing card though.
    
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Added some more data and modified some (that which is in bold) based on my experiences using both products at 1080p and 5760x1080...
Also, I removed the bits about eyefinity and surround that you had for 1080p headscratch.gif

I'm curious, because I've seen this several places - what tests are people doing where they are getting un-smooth 7970 CF performance at 1080p? Is that on a 120Hz monitor?

I ask because I have a 60Hz monitor and I have precisely two games that can be pushed below 60fps constant: Skyrim (with ~200 mods installed) and The Witcher 2 with Ubersampling. And the only reason they can be pushed below 60fps is that crossfire doesn't work properly with them - negative scaling in Skyrim and something wrong with either the game code or the drivers that make TW2 not utilize crossfire properly in some scenarios.

The only other places I can get below 60fps are Unigine (maxed out + manually double all the tesselation settings) and 3dmark11 extreme - and I'm having no issues there with smoothness.
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so what? reviews are already out...why wouldnt they do this to coincide with GTX 680 launch? Now it looks like theyre playing catch up, and a meager boost of 75mhz on a card which overclocks hundreds of mhz to me just reeks of a lack of innovation
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so what? reviews are already out...why wouldnt they do this to coincide with GTX 680 launch? Now it looks like theyre playing catch up, and a meager boost of 75mhz on a card which overclocks hundreds of mhz to me just reeks of a lack of innovation

Its simply so they can attempt to reclaim the "Fastest single GPU" title.

Sorry ATI, NV users can't hear this slight increase over their 690s wink.gif

(Seriously where is teh 7990? The rumors have even stopped.)
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Its simply so they can attempt to reclaim the "Fastest single GPU" title.
Sorry ATI, NV users can't hear this slight increase over their 690s wink.gif
(Seriously where is teh 7990? The rumors have even stopped.)
it's coming in june..
i guess amd it's waiting for the 590's full power. so they can catch up with the 7990 .. n off cuz it will be way better price...
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Its simply so they can attempt to reclaim the "Fastest single GPU" title.
Sorry ATI, NV users can't hear this slight increase over their 690s wink.gif
(Seriously where is teh 7990? The rumors have even stopped.)
it's coming in june..
i guess amd it's waiting for the 590's full power. so they can catch up with the 7990 .. n off cuz it will be way better price...

Did you mean a 690, and a full power 690 will be a gk110 x2 board? I'd bring a book then if you're waiting for that card guys.
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I'm curious, because I've seen this several places - what tests are people doing where they are getting un-smooth 7970 CF performance at 1080p? Is that on a 120Hz monitor?
I ask because I have a 60Hz monitor and I have precisely two games that can be pushed below 60fps constant: Skyrim (with ~200 mods installed) and The Witcher 2 with Ubersampling. And the only reason they can be pushed below 60fps is that crossfire doesn't work properly with them - negative scaling in Skyrim and something wrong with either the game code or the drivers that make TW2 not utilize crossfire properly in some scenarios.
The only other places I can get below 60fps are Unigine (maxed out + manually double all the tesselation settings) and 3dmark11 extreme - and I'm having no issues there with smoothness.

60fps means nothing for smoothness.
    
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60fps means nothing for smoothness.


I don't know about that. I've never noticed any stuttering on any CF/SLI setups with a vsynced 60. Anything below that feels awful on both however.
    
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