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Should I get a 2500K or 3570K?

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#1 ·
Hey there guys, I've been wondering what will be a better cpu for me. The 2500K or 3570K?

I only play games, and at very rare occasions i make gameplay videos. But gaming mostly, I will be overclocking with my V6GT, I'm gonna try for at least 4.5ggz or so. I've heard that since Ivy Bridge is the "Tock" that it isn't as good as sandy bridge for low heat and Overclocking.

They both cost about the same here so that's not an issue. I'm also planning on getting this http://119.47.125.81/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=93779 motherboard cause it's cheap and has only 1 HDMI port, and the rest are mostly USB (which is Exactly what i want)

I don't need Inbuilt graphics either, I've got a HD6950.
 
#3 ·
3570K is only 25$ more expensive than the 2500K, so I would personally recommend you to go for the 3570K.
 
#4 ·
I would go for Ivy bridge but I've read Alot about how hot it gets, especially when overclocked.

It seems the 2500K stays alot cooler than the 3570K. And it's cheaper, and there isn't much more than a little more performance in games.

But on the other hand, Ivy bridge IS faster, is has a few more features and if my graphics card ever fried I'd at least have a graphics chip for some games. I don't know what to get
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#5 ·
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Originally Posted by snipekill2445 View Post

I would go for Ivy bridge but I've read Alot about how hot it gets, especially when overclocked.
It seems the 2500K stays alot cooler than the 3570K. And it's cheaper, and there isn't much more than a little more performance in games.
But on the other hand, Ivy bridge IS faster, is has a few more features and if my graphics card ever fried I'd at least have a graphics chip for some games. I don't know what to get
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IB has a few flaw's involving the IHS. IMHO i5 2500k is a safer bet. People where raving about the i5 2500k performance, the chatter on the IB performance seems to be a monotone "meh" across the board.
 
#6 ·
I think both of them are good choices. It's just my personal choice to always go for the newest one out there, but indeed, IB tends to get really hot when OCing and if that's what you do, maybe the 2500K is a safer option.
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#7 ·
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Originally Posted by dejahboi View Post

Also keep in mind, I believe you'd have to have the new Ivy architecture to run PCI 3.0 as my mobo only supports it with only Ivy bridge and not my 2500k. Just a heads up
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His single 6950 wont even utilize the full potential of PCIe 2.0. I'm not saying don't go Ivy but I wouldn't worry too much about the native USB3 and PCIe3. If you live near a microcenter or find a good deal, don't hesitate to snag the 2500K or 2550K with a motherboard. Either way you will not regret one or the other.
 
#8 ·
I would guess at 4.5ghz on a V6GT the 3570K would be running pretty hot but probably not to the point where it's thermally throttling itself. If you don't run stuff like F@H 24/7, then I would go with the 3570K. On the other hand if you do plan on running your CPU 100% 24/7 then I would go for the 2500K.
 
#9 ·
I've not used the Ivy, but I have a 2500k that is currently running at 4.78GHz with a hyper 212+ cooler at around 55C and 1.43v (SigRig). If I hadn't skimped on my MB and gotten something that would push more than 1.43v I would be able to go even higher on air. My MB (see sigrig) won't push past 1.43v, no matter what I set the voltage at, I get vDroop back down to 1.43, and it has no options for LLC to try to limit vDroop.

Personally, I've had the chip for about a year now and I think it was one of the best purchases I've made. I say go with the 2500k and then you can OC without the heat issues that we've all read so much about with Ivy. But that is just what I would suggest having used the 2500k for a while, I personally think it is the best value on the market right now if you are looking for a quad core chip.
 
#10 ·
Since you actually plan to overclock you should get an Intel Core i5-2500k, you will just be really frustrated with the overclocking ability of the 3570k. By the way I have an intel core i5-2500k that can do 4.5 ghz at 1.35 v core and 5.0 ghz at 1.4 v core, I barely use my desktop for anything other than light gaming and video editing for my youtube channel. Just send me a quick PM if your interested, I'd be willing to negotiate below current prices.
- chmodlabs
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#11 ·
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Originally Posted by snipekill2445 View Post

I would go for Ivy bridge but I've read Alot about how hot it gets, especially when overclocked.
It seems the 2500K stays alot cooler than the 3570K. And it's cheaper, and there isn't much more than a little more performance in games.
But on the other hand, Ivy bridge IS faster, is has a few more features and if my graphics card ever fried I'd at least have a graphics chip for some games. I don't know what to get
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I suggest to get IB and then slowly save some money to change your 6950 to something pcie 3 gpu as pcie 2 will be a legacy just like pcie 1 in the future, say 1- 2 years.
IB heat is not that of a big deal, IB Tjmax is somewhere around 105+- (need confirmation from intel) compare to 98 in SB.
So take mine for example, 3570K @ 4.5 = 2500k @ 4.8 and mine idle at 32, load at 69 using prime95, H100 for cooling.
I am quite happy with it though i can push it even further.

anyway, thats my suggestion, at the end of the day its still your decision to make
 
#12 ·
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Originally Posted by Jayjr1105 View Post

His single 6950 wont even utilize the full potential of PCIe 2.0. I'm not saying don't go Ivy but I wouldn't worry too much about the native USB3 and PCIe3. If you live near a microcenter or find a good deal, don't hesitate to snag the 2500K or 2550K with a motherboard. Either way you will not regret one or the other.
Exactly. I've never really cared for PCI-E 3.0 to be honest lol, and I live in New Zealand. We never have "Deals" here, just RRP and used prices
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I think I'll go with the 2500K, Alot of people on here are praising how Cool it runs, Which is Exactly what I want. It's also a "Tock" so it's more refined. (I think that's what it mean, care to enlighten me?
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#13 ·
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Originally Posted by chmodlabs View Post

Since you actually plan to overclock you should get an Intel Core i5-2500k, you will just be really frustrated with the overclocking ability of the 3570k. By the way I have an intel core i5-2500k that can do 4.5 ghz at 1.35 v core and 5.0 ghz at 1.4 v core, I barely use my desktop for anything other than light gaming and video editing for my youtube channel. Just send me a quick PM if your interested, I'd be willing to negotiate below current prices.
- chmodlabs
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Those voltages are not consistent at all. A 2500K that can do 4.5 @ 1.35V is garbage, however a 5.0 clock @ 1.4 is nearing a great chip. How can you do 5.0 @ 1.4V but 4.5 @ a terrible 1.35V???
 
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Originally Posted by Jayjr1105 View Post

Those voltages are not consistent at all. A 2500K that can do 4.5 @ 1.35V is garbage, however a 5.0 clock @ 1.4 is nearing a great chip. How can you do 5.0 @ 1.4V but 4.5 @ a terrible 1.35V???
Say wha?? am I reading your post right? I sure hope its one big string of typo's....
 
#16 ·
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Originally Posted by snipekill2445 View Post

Exactly. I've never really cared for PCI-E 3.0 to be honest lol, and I live in New Zealand. We never have "Deals" here, just RRP and used prices
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I think I'll go with the 2500K, Alot of people on here are praising how Cool it runs, Which is Exactly what I want. It's also a "Tock" so it's more refined. (I think that's what it mean, care to enlighten me?
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Intel releases products on tick/tock schedule.

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/silicon-innovations/intel-tick-tock-model-general.html
 
#17 ·
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Originally Posted by KhaoticKomputing View Post

Say wha?? am I reading your post right? I sure hope its one big string of typo's....
He claimed his chip does 4.5 @ 1.35 (which isn't very good) then said it does 5.0 @ 1.4 (which is very good). Just not consistent. Something isn't right unless he was just lazy with extra voltage @ 4.5GHz.
 
#18 ·
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Originally Posted by Jayjr1105 View Post

He claimed his chip does 4.5 @ 1.35 (which isn't very good) then said it does 5.0 @ 1.4 (which is very good). Just not consistent. Something isn't right unless he was just lazy with extra voltage @ 4.5GHz.
^^This! Mine does 4.5GHz at about 1.35v but to get to 4.78GHz I had to go to 1.43v. Don't know about any higher as my MB won't consistantly push any voltage over 1.43v, but if I could get o 5GHz on 1.4v, that would be considered a golden chip! 4.5GHz at 1.35 is about average (from what I've read). I have yet to see anyone who says they can hit 5GHz on a 2500k at 1.4v post proof. Sure, they may be able to boot and run a CPU-Z validation, but I would like to see a screen shot showing not only CPU-Z but also a couple hours of folding or Prime to show that it is stable. Frankly, I don't buy it, it would have to be a golden chip to do that.
 
#19 ·
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Originally Posted by snipekill2445 View Post

I would go for Ivy bridge but I've read Alot about how hot it gets, especially when overclocked.
It seems the 2500K stays alot cooler than the 3570K. And it's cheaper, and there isn't much more than a little more performance in games.
But on the other hand, Ivy bridge IS faster, is has a few more features and if my graphics card ever fried I'd at least have a graphics chip for some games. I don't know what to get
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The chip gets hotter, but it produces less heat. Sandy just does a much better job of dissipating the heat to the heat sink.

I would go with ivy because it will heat up your room less due to decreased heat production
 
#20 ·
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Originally Posted by col musstard View Post

The chip gets hotter, but it produces less heat. Sandy just does a much better job of dissipating the heat to the heat sink.
I would go with ivy because it will heat up your room less due to decreased heat production
But if the OC is only planning on running the chip at 4.5GHz, the 2500K won't really put off any heat to speak of either. Heck, my TC folding rig is a 2500k at 4.78GHz and only runs around 55C all the time, with the hyper 212+ cooler on it, the air coming out of the case feels pretty cool. It also only has a 5450 GPU that doesn't run because the system isn't connected to a monitor.
 
#21 ·
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Originally Posted by WonderMutt View Post

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Originally Posted by Jayjr1105 View Post

He claimed his chip does 4.5 @ 1.35 (which isn't very good) then said it does 5.0 @ 1.4 (which is very good). Just not consistent. Something isn't right unless he was just lazy with extra voltage @ 4.5GHz.
^^This! Mine does 4.5GHz at about 1.35v but to get to 4.78GHz I had to go to 1.43v. Don't know about any higher as my MB won't consistantly push any voltage over 1.43v, but if I could get o 5GHz on 1.4v, that would be considered a golden chip! 4.5GHz at 1.35 is about average (from what I've read). I have yet to see anyone who says they can hit 5GHz on a 2500k at 1.4v post proof. Sure, they may be able to boot and run a CPU-Z validation, but I would like to see a screen shot showing not only CPU-Z but also a couple hours of folding or Prime to show that it is stable. Frankly, I don't buy it, it would have to be a golden chip to do that.
I'm stable at 1.36 but I'm still trying to find my sweet spot, so far it's looking to be 1.312. I don't think 1.36 is bad though. Anything higher though I'd be worried.
 
#22 ·
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Originally Posted by lpjz50 View Post

I'm stable at 1.36 but I'm still trying to find my sweet spot, so far it's looking to be 1.312. I don't think 1.36 is bad though. Anything higher though I'd be worried.
For 4.5, yeah, 1.36 is pretty good, I just don't believe people who put that they can hit 5 on just 1.4v (1.40v), I just don't belive it is possible. Sure, 1.45v or higher, sure, 5GHz is obtainable on any good chip at that, but not 1.40v. My guess is that people are saying they can hit 5GHz on 1.4v leaving off that is it 1.48v to make it sound better, just my guess though.
 
#23 ·
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Originally Posted by WonderMutt View Post

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Originally Posted by lpjz50 View Post

I'm stable at 1.36 but I'm still trying to find my sweet spot, so far it's looking to be 1.312. I don't think 1.36 is bad though. Anything higher though I'd be worried.
For 4.5, yeah, 1.36 is pretty good, I just don't believe people who put that they can hit 5 on just 1.4v (1.40v), I just don't belive it is possible. Sure, 1.45v or higher, sure, 5GHz is obtainable on any good chip at that, but not 1.40v. My guess is that people are saying they can hit 5GHz on 1.4v leaving off that is it 1.48v to make it sound better, just my guess though.
Probably. I hit 1.42 at 4.8 GHz
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if I lowered llc a bit I could help that margin.
 
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Originally Posted by waylonrobert View Post

From what I understand, a Sandy Bridge running 4.5ghz is not the same as an Ivy Bridge running at 4.5ghz. From what I understand, Ivy runs hotter at higher speeds, but has better performance and lower power usage.
I know the lower power usage is correct, I've seen the figures (somewhere) for that, but I don't know about performance...if anyone finds something showing that, post it up, I'd be interested to see. If I get the time to look, I'll try to find a performance comparison and post up as well.
 
#26 ·
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Originally Posted by WonderMutt View Post

I know the lower power usage is correct, I've seen the figures (somewhere) for that, but I don't know about performance...if anyone finds something showing that, post it up, I'd be interested to see. If I get the time to look, I'll try to find a performance comparison and post up as well.
I haven't seen any empirical data on this - just echoing what several people have said on here. Most give it a 5-7% performance jump over Sandy Bridge.

EDIT: Here are some benchmarks: http://www.overclock.net/t/1242313/more-ivy-bridge-benchmarks-sandybridge-comparison-3770k-vs-2600k-performance-temps-etc-couple-of-ln2-scores-are-up#
 
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