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Poll Results: Should I get a 2500K or 3570K?

 
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    2500K
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    3570K
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post #31 of 176
The big talking point with IB is the power saving benefits which I can see will be worthwhile from a mobile device point of view. That and PCI-E 3.0 but we are yet to see that being utilized by GPU's.

The complicating factor in all of this is the pricing structure Intel has adopted for IB, prices being like-for-like with SB models. They've clearly done this on purpose and doesn't make the decision any easier. I have also noticed over the past few weeks that SB prices are actually going up, rumours being that Intel are forcing users, building new rigs, to upgrade.
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But going from a 2500K to a 3570K is more of a side grade really, more performance, but less OC potential (and lets face it, who here doesn't want huge OC headroom biggrin.gif
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Just read the thread and must say I'm a little disappointed that I have a 3570K on it's way.

I only plan on medium gaming, but was looking to OC to maybe 4.2Ghz.

Would you guys say at stock clock/gentle OC the Ivy is a better choice?
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post #34 of 176
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Originally Posted by chmodlabs View Post

5-15% would not be a noticeably improvement in performance, especially since a 300mhz boost on SB is nothing to match an IB equivalent with skyrocketing temps. And for the record yes, I did run my 2500k at 4.5 Ghz with 1.35 v core (which is just fine) and yes I can run 5.0 ghz at 1.4 - 1.416 v core. I guess I have a better than average or about average chip. NO it was not a typo.
- chmodlabs biggrin.gif

5.1 with 1.425, 5.0 with 1.415 for me on my 2700K wink.gif

5-15% is not noticeable, no, but the prices are the same, so why on earth would you not want the little boost?
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post #35 of 176
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Because I don't want the HUGE amount of heat that comes with that performance.
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post #36 of 176
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Originally Posted by Bomster View Post

Just read the thread and must say I'm a little disappointed that I have a 3570K on it's way.
I only plan on medium gaming, but was looking to OC to maybe 4.2Ghz.
Would you guys say at stock clock/gentle OC the Ivy is a better choice?

Easily. And even for heavy overclocks, I still believe Ivy is a better choice when you factor in power consumption, and equal if you don't.
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post #37 of 176
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But for heavy overclocking you want as little heat as possible for the most headroom. Ivy doesn't do that very well.
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post #38 of 176
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bomster View Post

Just read the thread and must say I'm a little disappointed that I have a 3570K on it's way.
I only plan on medium gaming, but was looking to OC to maybe 4.2Ghz.
Would you guys say at stock clock/gentle OC the Ivy is a better choice?

I would say with an OC that low, you should be fine, I don't think the heat really becomes an issue until you get up to around the 4.5GHz range (at least from what I've read), so no you shouldn't be disappointed, I'm sure the IB will be a great chip for you. I was just making the point that if you are looking to OC near or above 4.5GHz, the heat production will probably be more noticible and from what I understand, harder to deal with than SB. I.E. my i5 2500k is at 4.78GHz, 1.43v with a Hyper 212+ cooler and my temps stay around 55C. With that, the air coming out of my case is not much over my ambient temp. Where as, from what I've read, a IB at the same OC would put off quite a bit of heat and may be difficult to cool with an air cooler (i.e. may require being under water sooner than a SB chip).

But, as I stated, I have plenty of experience with the SB chips (I own both an i5 2500k and an i7 2700k and I recently owned and sold an i7 2600k), but I have NO experiance with IB, only what I've read. From my own personal experience, the SB chips run pretty cool and are very easy to keep cool even under a large OC (my 2500k is running about 45% over the stock speed and still relatively cool).
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Because I don't want the HUGE amount of heat that comes with that performance.

To go along with what I was saying above, the SB chips are very easy to cool. Heck, when I first got my i5 2500k, I had it OCed to 4.1GHz on the stock cooler (which is absolute garbage BTW) and it was only running at 75C. Sure this is hot, but on the stock cooler with an OC that is 25% faster than stock, I thought this was pretty dang good! Once I put the Hyper 212+ on it, those temps dropped to the mid 40s under load.

Frankly, until the heat issue is resolved with the IB (which it won't be b/c Intel will just realease a new/better chip rather than work on the IB any longer) I won't buy one, but I'm all about OCing the crap out of eveything, so the heat is a MAJOR issue for me. Also, lets keep in mind, Intel released this chip as a power saver over SB, not as a better overclocker. Running stock, the IB will show a slight improvement in performance, and a major improvement in power consumption, but for me, I don't care about the power it is consuming. I fold 24/7 on 7 rigs, I'm used to paying the power bill, no big issue for me, but if it can't OC, or requires major cooling in order to do so, its not for me.

But, as always, this is all just my 2cents.gif .
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if you go 3570K, get a z77 board
    
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Sorry to thread jack, I was planning to sell my 2600k and mobo, to jump onto intels 3rd gen, but after reading this I think I will just keep my 2600k. I can do 5Ghz @1.40v (which I thought it was bad) but according to you guys that is very good? I never had time to fine tune it, this was just a quick overclock following a guide in hardforums. Maybe I should try lowering voltage to see how low can I go in voltage to get a stable 5Ghz. Now, another question, is 1.40v safe for daily use? just gaming a few hours a day, nothing else.

edit: 4.16v according to CPU-Z 2314680.png
Edited by nicolasl46 - 5/8/12 at 6:25am
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