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Silverstone ft02 vs coolermaster cosmos ii ultra tower

post #1 of 18
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Hi Guys,

Please advise should I remain Silverstone ft02 or choose cooler master cosmos ii.
Now my stiuation is that I notices that the case air in take very cooling but the exhaust fan 120mm not perform well..As such,I felt that the case pretty hot while during full load gaming..Thanks
post #2 of 18
air cooling = FT02
liquid cooling = cosmos2

if you are having problems with the exhaust on the FT02, then you are doing something wrong biggrin.gif FT02 is designed as a positive pressure case. it doesn't even need an exhaust fan to function properly smile.gif if you are really having thermal problems with the FT02, you may have to hit the fan switch to high.
post #3 of 18
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Originally Posted by psyclum View Post

air cooling = FT02
liquid cooling = cosmos2
if you are having problems with the exhaust on the FT02, then you are doing something wrong biggrin.gif FT02 is designed as a positive pressure case. it doesn't even need an exhaust fan to function properly smile.gif if you are really having thermal problems with the FT02, you may have to hit the fan switch to high.

Bro,

I have tried set all fans to high mode.. As in I feel the heat from the case very high temperature..
My current set up occupied till my graphic card touching surface of 180mm fan..
post #4 of 18
may want to give an idea of what you have in the system and what are the load temps are when you run benchmarks. maybe a pic of what the internals of your system looks like would help resolve the confusion here.

there should not be a system that the FT02 cant properly cool down with the fans turned on high... each of the AP181's are rated at 130CFM when turned on high.... that is 390CFM's of cool intake air... even if you cut that in half to take into account of dirty air filters, you are still looking at around 200CFM of cooling air... the only "heat" you'd be feeling is from the reference coolers on the GPU since the reference cooler is designed to run warm. (it's not unusual to reach 80C during benchmarking) THAT temp wont be resolved unless you go with a custom fan profile and crank up the GPU fans.

i have a feeling you are blaming the GPU temps on the case and never really played around with the fan profiles on the GPU. high GPU temp is normal if you never changed to a custom fan profile and that wont change regardless of what case you buy smile.gif
post #5 of 18
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Originally Posted by psyclum View Post

may want to give an idea of what you have in the system and what are the load temps are when you run benchmarks. maybe a pic of what the internals of your system looks like would help resolve the confusion here.
there should not be a system that the FT02 cant properly cool down with the fans turned on high... each of the AP181's are rated at 130CFM when turned on high.... that is 390CFM's of cool intake air... even if you cut that in half to take into account of dirty air filters, you are still looking at around 200CFM of cooling air... the only "heat" you'd be feeling is from the reference coolers on the GPU since the reference cooler is designed to run warm. (it's not unusual to reach 80C during benchmarking) THAT temp wont be resolved unless you go with a custom fan profile and crank up the GPU fans.
i have a feeling you are blaming the GPU temps on the case and never really played around with the fan profiles on the GPU. high GPU temp is normal if you never changed to a custom fan profile and that wont change regardless of what case you buy smile.gif

Now i start to understand what you mean.Isn't a better way to improved? Here is my photos attached.
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Partly the reason why i look into coolermaster latest model cosmos ii.Because it can be install additional 6 fans on the case.2 fans on the side panel,1 fan on the hdd and 3 fans on the top bay.Which is like kinda balance to me.
post #6 of 18
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Originally Posted by tokomi View Post

Now i start to understand what you mean.Isn't a better way to improved? Here is my photos attached.
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Partly the reason why i look into coolermaster latest model cosmos ii.Because it can be install additional 6 fans on the case.2 fans on the side panel,1 fan on the hdd and 3 fans on the top bay.Which is like kinda balance to me.

ahh i see your primary problem biggrin.gif you are using directCU2 coolers on your GPU. generally speaking, the asus directCU2 is one of the best if not the best aftermarket coolers. UNFORTUNATELY, this is not true for FT02. frown.gif FT02 works best when you have GPU cooler with fin's that are perpendicular to the AP181 fans. the directCU2 cooling fins are parallel to the AP181's. what makes the problem worse is the directCU2 heatpipes are vertical which means the cooling liquid inside all drain to the bottom of the pipe and makes the fundamental physics of heat heatpipe cooling useless.

taken into consideration of the GPU you are using, you'll be better off with a more conventional case where the gpu sits flat rather then vertical like the FT02... it's a matter of buying the wrong GPU for the FT02. they are simply not compatible frown.gif neither component is at fault, both are top of the line in performance, they just don't work well together frown.gif if you had gone with a MSI twin frozer or HIS iceQ or sapphire X2 type card, then it'll work perfectly. but, directCU/accelero xtreme plus ii type cooler simply doesn't work in the FT02/RV02/FT03/RV03/TJ11 or any "stack cooling effect" type cases frown.gif
post #7 of 18
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Originally Posted by psyclum View Post

ahh i see your primary problem biggrin.gif you are using directCU2 coolers on your GPU. generally speaking, the asus directCU2 is one of the best if not the best aftermarket coolers. UNFORTUNATELY, this is not true for FT02. frown.gif FT02 works best when you have GPU cooler with fin's that are perpendicular to the AP181 fans. the directCU2 cooling fins are parallel to the AP181's. what makes the problem worse is the directCU2 heatpipes are vertical which means the cooling liquid inside all drain to the bottom of the pipe and makes the fundamental physics of heat heatpipe cooling useless.
taken into consideration of the GPU you are using, you'll be better off with a more conventional case where the gpu sits flat rather then vertical like the FT02... it's a matter of buying the wrong GPU for the FT02. they are simply not compatible frown.gif neither component is at fault, both are top of the line in performance, they just don't work well together frown.gif if you had gone with a MSI twin frozer or HIS iceQ or sapphire X2 type card, then it'll work perfectly. but, directCU/accelero xtreme plus ii type cooler simply doesn't work in the FT02/RV02/FT03/RV03/TJ11 or any "stack cooling effect" type cases frown.gif

Bro you are the hero answer of all questions and technical issues..Really appreciate your help if you live in Singapore I sure treat u a meal for that..thumb.gif another question is how do we know what type of graphic card suit ft02? Cos one of my friend having this case too..
post #8 of 18
i just recently bought a sapphire 7970 OC for my FT02. if you examine the cooler on it,

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you will see the cooler has 5 heatpipes however 4 of the 5 heatpipes are VERY close to the heat source (where the thermal paste is) this means the liquid inside the heatpipe can be drawn up to the heat source easily through capillary action of the wick inside the heatpipe. the last heatpipe when mounted vertically is more then 2 inchs away from the heatsource so it's basically here for looks since it wont be dissipating any heat biggrin.gif when mounting in a FT02, the last pipe is useless since liquid can not passively travel that far up a vertical pipe regardless of the type of wick you use.

here is an example of the type of cooler in the directCU2 where the cooling fin is parallel to the AP181's when mounted in the FT02

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as you can see ALL of its heatpipes are vertical (when mounted on FT02) and reaches FAR below the heat source. this means there is no chance in hell any of the liquid will be making it back up to the heat source since it's way too much of a climb for the liquid with capillary action. this is the main reason why the directCU2/accelero xtreme plus II type cooler simply doesn't work in any kind of vertical mounting like the FT02 or any other case designed to have vertical mounting of GPU. i'm not saying your GPU will actually overheat with these coolers under stock clock, but if you are OCing, they are definitely not the ideal coolers to get. you'd be better of buying reference coolers and save a few dollars.
Edited by psyclum - 5/4/12 at 12:51pm
post #9 of 18
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I'll take note all the advise and thanks!! thumb.gif
post #10 of 18
As an owner of a Cosmos 2 and a FT02 I totally agree with psyclum's comments. The Silverstone cases with 90° rotated motherboards and best served by using reference GPU's. The hot air is simply exhausted through the upwards facing PCI slots.

Juano, a user who has posted extensively in the Raven RV03 thread has explained why cards like the Direct CUII are not suitable for this type of case, and conversely as to why its possible to use another non-reference design like the MSI Twin Frozr.

One last thing to mention is that even using reference cards, the PCI slot area at the top of the case will heat up when the GPU's are under load. The TJ11 even has a warning symbol in this area to alert users that the surrounding area will be hot to the touch.
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