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Originally Posted by duox View Post

Not sounding like I am in A cave would be a nice breakthrough, the cave sound on dolby headphone is so distracing positional sound is easier to pick out on stereo for me. If creative has solved this with their 3d sound I need to switch cards lol.

Creative's CMSS-3D goes for the 'playing inside of an aluminum box' effect.
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post #52 of 81
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So how close do you guys think science can get to 3D positioning when used with headphones only mm's away from the ear? I think physically we can progress some but in terms of audio accuracy it will all fall down to how the sound is processed, software and hardware wise.

Pretty darn good and already exists but Dolby ain't it. The only limitation is really the headphones that it's paired with and it's imaging and soundstage properties, not really the software.

This is a nearfield speaker emulator.

http://www.toneboosters.com/tb-isone/

right side panel here (the HRTF) is where the magic happens:



You can download a fully working trial in the above link but you can't save settings in the trial. You can buy it for 15 Euro = insane bargain.
Change to those settings on the right. the rest are optional but give it more realism via room acoustics. Makes sure the CSC is highlighted on. The HRTF will be slightly different for each person but those are good base settings. There's a 'calibrate me' preset in the present pane. Use that and tweak it accordingly.

Imaging matters more than soundstage when it comes to '3d-ness'.

There's also Toneboosters Surround, a 5.1 speaker emulator
http://www.toneboosters.com/tb-isonesurround/

It is not a upmixer, so if the track is 2.1, it will play as 2.1
post #53 of 81
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Originally Posted by chinesekiwi View Post

IThe differences between CMSS-3D and Dolby Headphone is that CMSS-3D is based upon 'head related transfer functions', in other words, how objects in the environment, such as your head, the shape of your outer ear, walls, affects your perception of a sound.

If the game uses EAX or creative's "open al" which is dead these days thanks to creative's awful support.

Here is Bohemia Interactive developer "Dwarden" explaining why they no longer use "Open al".

In the other 95% of games these days I find Dolby headphone to sound much better.
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post #54 of 81
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Creative's CMSS-3D goes for the 'playing inside of an aluminum box' effect.


So cave or tin box are my choices, I will just stick with stereo, ive never looked at the wrong place for a boomers gurgle so life goes on lol.
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I'll tell you what's terrible. COD BO2 sounds are terrible. With DH I can't hear any footsteps and every weapon fired sounds like the fourth of July. I wonder if they even spent time in the sound quality.
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post #56 of 81
Just turn the stupid effects off. The end.
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post #57 of 81
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Just turn the stupid effects off. The end.

And hear the hard left to right panning?
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And hear the hard left to right panning?

Dont worry, Simca just has to put her stamp of disapproval on a thread.
post #59 of 81
Let's think about this.

DH effect makes you sound like you're in a cave.

CMSS effect makes you sound like you're in a tin box.

Solution? Turn them off. eek.gif
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what if the game takes place in a cave, or a tin box?
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