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, even with "effects" turned off, the sound cards still provide better positional cues than on board.
that have some sense
better sound quality= better positional cues

best way would be to try all cards with effect on and off
then decide whats best for u
BUT that is too expensive (for me)

one more thing
lest say that Titanium hd is best for games/ positional cues
if i get it right, that card use THX TruStudio Pro for positional cues ?
i will get http://www.msi.com/product/mb/Z77A-GD65.html next week
that mobo have THX TruStudio Pro
so, i can get Titanium hd positional cues with lower sound quality???

ps. sry for noob question smile.gif
post #72 of 81
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Originally Posted by Simca View Post


, even with "effects" turned off, the sound cards still provide better positional cues than on board.
that have some sense
better sound quality= better positional cues

best way would be to try all cards with effect on and off
then decide whats best for u
BUT that is too expensive (for me)

one more thing
lest say that Titanium hd is best for games/ positional cues
if i get it right, that card use THX TruStudio Pro for positional cues ?
i will get http://www.msi.com/product/mb/Z77A-GD65.html next week
that mobo have THX TruStudio Pro
so, i can get Titanium hd positional cues with lower sound quality???

ps. sry for noob question smile.gif

I would not bet on that motherboard giving you the positioning of the TiHD.

If better quality audio=better gaming/positional cues then external DACs would be the king of gaming and I personally haven't had that experience.
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post #73 of 81
u are not helping smile.gif

i know that any mobo cant give positioning of the TiHD
i was only asking about technology for positioning
if they use same technology , then i would know what kinda of effect it is ...

never mind
lest assume: effects sux,
then creative vs asus debate is no longer valid
after it we have only one question, which sound card gives best sound for money? (not best sound overall)
xonar dx?
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Most modern audio engines send a pre-mixed signal to each channel.
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what if the game takes place in a cave, or a tin box?

lol Checkmate.

/thisthreadislost.
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post #76 of 81
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I'll sum it up: CMSS-3D is far more realistic, Dolby Headphone is 'cheating' at times because it does not account for elevation cues or say, walls. Yes, you really can 'wallhack' with sound. It's quite evident really.
You can blame Creative for stagnating good directional game cues in sound, and Microsoft for sending it into intensive care.

Now it all makes sense. No wonder DH had more distinct positional sound than CMSS-3D. Furthermore, I feel that both DH and CMSS-3D produce sound quality differently. They sound different to me. I think I would prefer CMSS-3D if I were playing a single player game or just any game i'm trying to enjoy. BUT if i were playing competitively I would choose DH, and also, it seems that a lot of headsets that come with their own DAC use DH. Is DH becoming the new standard for fps gamers?
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But IMO, turn all that off and enjoy the soundcard as is.

I'm curious. Do you game on the PC with a creative card? If so, are you saying that you play with just plain stereo and let the sound card work naturally with no special effects?
post #78 of 81
Dolby headphone and CMSS-3d pretty much work the same way in modern games.

The only games where CMSS actually takes directional cues is games that use creative's "open al" and EAX. Game developers don't really use either anymore and I don't know of any in the works either.
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post #79 of 81
Lol they both sound so bad I can't believe this thread made it 8 pages.

There is absolutely nothing a "surround" encoder can do with stereo headphones that stereo headphones don't already do better by themselves.

If surround were better, mother nature would have given you 7.1 ears.
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post #80 of 81
Then you don't have it properly set up. DH can sound much better in a lot of games. Most of the gamers on Head-fi actually even use one or the other.
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If surround were better, mother nature would have given you 7.1 ears.

You can't hear where things are coming from?
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