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hey guys

just overclocked my 1100t cpu to 4.0 ghz, with fsb at 250 , ram at 2000 mhz (9-10-9-27) and nb/htt also at 2000 mhz , for the first time, im new to all of this and i was wondering if i could get more performance, or if i did something wrong with my current setup, so please take a look and comment on it what i could do better (sorry for poor english, i'm from holland)

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i know that it wouldnt be handy to just tweak settings without knowing what it would do, so i read a well, "basic" phenom ii overclocking guide (pretty good one i think. (link to guide: http://www.overclockers.com/step-guide-overclock-amd-phenom/ )
and following that guide (with a little of my own twist to it) my first step in to overclocking was searching the theoretical max, in my case i found that this is 4,4 GHz with fsb 200, and multi 22.
next i found the max fsb, witch came out to be 290 (found this by raising 10 at a time and keeping cpu freq. at 3.3 GHz with multi)

my RAM is rated for 2000 mhz, 9-10-9-27

my setup is as following:

CPU: AMD Phenom ii 1100t (O.C @ 4.0 GHz, 15 hours prime95 stable)
MOBO: Asus Crosshair v formula (nb-cpu@ 2000 mhz, HTT@ 2000 mhz
RAM: Crosshair dominator gt (8gb O.C @ 2000 mhz, 9,10,9,27)
CPU cooler: Spire thermax eclipse ii (push-pull config.)
Case: Antec df 35 (with extra gentle typhoon 4300 rpm fan)
GPU: sapphire HD 6870 1gb (core O.C @ 1000 mhz)
PSU: Corsair tx 750 watt.

so my question is: can i get even more performance out my computer , and what did i do wrong while overclocking
note that i already primed my cpu for 15 hours, and maximum temp was 48 celcius. no errors.
Edited by Sh4dowH4ze - 5/6/12 at 11:08am
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Hi man.

I think that this guide can give you more information about overclock and help you to get a little more maybe. http://www.overclock.net/t/777378/official-gappos-little-deneb-thuban-overclocking-guide-with-too-many-smileys
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Since you have a Black Edition processor, why not overclock from the CPU Multiplier first, and then use the FSB frequency. You'll get the most performance this way.
You might want to increase your CPU-NB to around 2600-2800 @ 1.25V, RAM @ 1.65.
Also, if you start crashing, disable C1E, Cool'n'Quiet, Spread Spectrum, and turn on CPU LLC (Load-Line Calibration).

See if you can OC from the multiplier to 4.0 GHz with the multiplier set at 20x and vCore at 1.45 w/LLC. Then, slowly raise the multiplier one at a time until you get unstable. Turn it back down to the last stable clock and then increase the FSB clock until the last stable clock. It's not recommended you set the vCore more than 1.45 because LLC will automatically raise when needed, and a 1.6V vCore is something you don't want.
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Since you have a Black Edition processor, why not overclock from the CPU Multiplier first, and then use the FSB frequency. You'll get the most performance this way.
You might want to increase your CPU-NB to around 2600-2800 @ 1.25V, RAM @ 1.65.
Also, if you start crashing, disable C1E, Cool'n'Quiet, Spread Spectrum, and turn on CPU LLC (Load-Line Calibration).

See if you can OC from the multiplier to 4.0 GHz with the multiplier set at 20x and vCore at 1.45 w/LLC. Then, slowly raise the multiplier one at a time until you get unstable. Turn it back down to the last stable clock and then increase the FSB clock until the last stable clock. It's not recommended you set the vCore more than 1.45 because LLC will automatically raise when needed, and a 1.6V vCore is something you don't want.

ok, i will try that approach then, but i have some questions about it

why should i get more performance if i do with multiplier, with fsb my RAM runs faster too right? so more overall performance i think. i am very new to overclocking so i dont know if it is just stupit to use fsb for more performance (im dutch sorry for my horrible english)

and i already turned off cool and C1E, Cool'n'Quiet, Spread Spectrum, and load line calibration is turned to extreme,
my vcore is set at 1.45 volts, nb-cpu is set at 1,15 volts.

and why do you suggest i turn up my nb/htt ? (perhaps a stupit question but i seriusly dont know the awnser smile.gif )

thanks in advance!
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No reason to go multiplier only man. You're actually correct, by overclocking via your HTT (FSB), you're actually overclocking your RAM too, which is a good thing.

Keep your HT Link at 2000MHz. Overclock your NB (using CPU-NB voltage). You've got a Thuban so 3.0GHz+ on your NB is doable. And try to get the CPU a little higher. Maybe try 16.5x or 17x with a little more vcore. You're safe up to 1.55v vcore and CPU-NB, so long as your temperatures stay low enough.
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No reason to go multiplier only man. You're actually correct, by overclocking via your HTT (FSB), you're actually overclocking your RAM too, which is a good thing.
Keep your HT Link at 2000MHz. Overclock your NB (using CPU-NB voltage). You've got a Thuban so 3.0GHz+ on your NB is doable. And try to get the CPU a little higher. Maybe try 16.5x or 17x with a little more vcore. You're safe up to 1.55v vcore and CPU-NB, so long as your temperatures stay low enough.

ok, this was how i was thinking, fsb is the basic clock that affect the whole pc i guess, so why not turning that up.
i will try those settings tommorow, dont have time atm,


thanks
Edited by Sh4dowH4ze - 5/6/12 at 9:50am
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[update]
just overclocked but further, to 4250 mhz, it is a little stable, but gets errors in prime95 after about 8 minutes, i made a screen but the moment iu saved it the thing bsod' me -.-'
the bsod code is 0x0000000a, i already got 3 bsod's with this setup, evry time adding 250 mhz to nb-cpu AND htt.
does anyone know what i'm doing wrong/ right?
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I doubt that cpu will like going over 1866-1920-ish on the RAM
The guide that saint19 posted is the bestest! :thumb.gif:
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Thats the thing about overclocking everything with fsb at once, it's much harder to know what is causing your instability...

Thats why you should first do multiplier to find your limit, then CPU/NB, and then start experimenting with different fsb mixes and ram overclocking.

Edit: keep your HT link at 2000 and put your CPU/NB straight to 2600-2800/1.25v and try lowering your ram OC a bit. More than 4.1 - 4.2ghz on a 1100t is a bit optimistic though.
Edited by KinguBah - 5/6/12 at 10:52am
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Hmm, why no NB overclock?
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