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Then you haven't played many FPS. I can tell you most FPS from 2000 and prior had established learning curves.

Played just about all of them thumb.gif
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What exactly is COD doing so right?

It's quite simple really. They've mastered the art of controlling the ignorant and gullible. And in case you haven't noticed, there are lot more ignorant and gullible people than reasonable and intelligent people.
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I agree, but I think people (game devs in particular) need to realize something. CoD sells to CoD fans, and friends of CoD fans. For all it's popularity, CoD had never sold well to demographics that enjoy unique games, or even games with different play styles, just like those games don't sell well to CoD fans.
Trying to make an "innovative" or new game, and making a cod clone, are simply mutually exclusive. Dev's shouldn't try to push their games into the CoD crowd because it simply will not work. If it's too similar, people will dismiss it as a poor clone and just play the REAL CoD. If it's not similar enough, that demographic will not be interested anyway. Instead, developers should be focusing on the demographics which actually enjoy their games.

Damn that is very well said. thumb.gif

You deserve 10 +Reps for that one.

Edit:
HOOAH!

Edited by crashdummy35 - 5/6/12 at 10:38pm
 
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Damn that is very well said. thumb.gif
You deserve 10 +Reps for that one.

give him a Hooah! tongue.gif
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It's quite simple really. They've mastered the art of controlling the ignorant and gullible. And in case you haven't noticed, there are lot more ignorant and gullible people than reasonable and intelligent people.

This is the conclusion that one with a massive sense of superiority over those who enjoy popular media would come up with.
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This is the conclusion that one with a massive sense of superiority over those who enjoy popular media would come up with.

Is that really how you see it? I don't see it that way at all. I would say that I drew that conclusion from the fact that Activison/Treyarch/Infinity Ward haven't created a new game since the first Modern Warfare. I would also say that I drew that conclusion from the fact that I respect game studios that work hard for their money unlike Activison and friends. They regurgitate the same rubbish year after year and introduce absolutely nothing new. As soon as they come out with something that is new and made with quality I would be happy to buy it. Until then it's nothing but Call of Duty 4. Those who are ignorant enough to buy the same game repeatedly should be classified within the lesser of the two categories that I stated previously.
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Is that really how you see it? I don't see it that way at all. I would say that I drew that conclusion from the fact that Activison/Treyarch/Infinity Ward haven't created a new game since the first Modern Warfare. I would also say that I drew that conclusion from the fact that I respect game studios that work hard for their money unlike Activison and friends. They regurgitate the same rubbish year after year and introduce absolutely nothing new. As soon as they come out with something that is new and made with quality I would be happy to buy it. Until then it's nothing but Call of Duty 4. Those who are ignorant enough to buy the same game repeatedly should be classified within the lesser of the two categories that I stated previously.

If calling Call of Duty buyers ignorant and gullible and those who shy away reasonable and intelligent is not a prime example of that sense of superiority, I don't know what is.

I understand where you are coming from on the franchise itself, I'm not a fan of it myself and would agree that it is not the most innovative or cost efficient franchise to be a fan of. What I disagree with is making sweeping generalizations about a game's fan base based on your own opinion. Whether you or I like the franchise or not, it has hit a winning formula that attracts many people. Now as for why they've become so popular, it could be a number of things. Mainstream advertising, word of mouth, the ease at which new players can get into the games, social aspects (friends wanting to play with friends). Saying that it's because people are ignorant and gullible is based on your own opinions on the franchise and might not even be accurate because Call of Duty players may very well love the Call of Duty formula, and have no qualms about purchasing a new game based on that same formula. Whether you would be willing to play multiple games based on your favorite game or not, many people apparently are, and that is quite alright because everyone has different priorities when it comes to purchasing a new game. Basically, ones game preferences do not make them any more "reasonable and intelligent" than the next guy.
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That list is a shame. rolleyes.gif
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What exactly is COD doing so right?
Stupid easy challenge that offers competitiveness - gets them every time. How has this worked multiple times with little change? I do not know; however, I do not wish to live on this planet anymore. tongue.gif

EDIT: Have you seen any rendition of Chicago!? Razzle-dazzle 'em and they'll never catch wise!
Edited by BlackVenom - 5/7/12 at 2:45am
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I don't understand how people can chastise Activision for using the same formula year after year, and at the same time criticize DICE for trying new gameplay mechanisms?
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It may have sold less, but what I meant was, if BF3 had similar game play to BC2, it would be a much better game...

I disagree. Having played every Battlefield game since 1942 to BF3; I can say that the Bad Company offshoot is definitely the weakest part of the game series.
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wish they would release halo 3 +later for the pc.
they'd probably sell another million or so copies.
Halo is one of the reasons people buy an xbox, there is NO way they will release a Windows version. It would be nice though, I agree.
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