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post #131 of 343
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5 month old drivers for AMD, fresh drivers for Nvidia.

I like how you try to spin launch drivers as "fresh", usually people try to make that a negative.. not a positive rolleyes.gif

that was pretty good lol.
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post #132 of 343
outstanding. performance follows closely behind the 680, has 2gb of vram, and still beats the 7970 in a couple tests. with any luck, about the time this ridiculous gk104 shortage is over, we'll get a preview of the 8000s and the gk110 wink.gif

have a pretty strong feeling the shortage is going to continue through the ivy-e release...
    
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post #133 of 343
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3D Mark11 Score Extreme Presets
GTX 680: 3063
GTX 670: 2986
That is too good to be real, but its real.

That score for the 680 is using an old driver (according to the article). The score of ~3300 with the 4 GB Palit (which uses stock clocks) is using a newer driver. So at extreme the 680 is ~10% faster than the 670 when they both use updated drivers.
 
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post #134 of 343
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5 month old drivers for AMD, fresh drivers for Nvidia.
The 670 is performing within 90% of the 680 in every benchmark while being clocked 5-10% lower.
The 7970s low performance is because of old drivers.
We still don't know the price of the 670, but based on these benches: pricing it lower than $450 would be downright stupid by Nvidia as it would cannibalize the market for the 680.

You do realise this is a bad thing? This just again shows amd slacks in the driver department as always. It must have looked like a good argument in your head.
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5 month old drivers for AMD, fresh drivers for Nvidia.
The 670 is performing within 90% of the 680 in every benchmark while being clocked 5-10% lower.
The 7970s low performance is because of old drivers.
We still don't know the price of the 670, but based on these benches: pricing it lower than $450 would be downright stupid by Nvidia as it would cannibalize the market for the 680.
You do realise this is a bad thing? This just again shows amd slacks in the driver department as always. It must have looked like a good argument in your head.

They don't slack they are just underfunded. In fact all things considered I think AMD's driver team is not that bad. Nvidia has better relationships with pubs and is able to optimize games months beforehand. You will never see pre-release optimizations in AMD's drivers. The problem for AMD is that they make less money then Nvidia and have a whole other half a company to fund that Nvidia doesn't have to worry about.

If anything it's remarkable they keep up as well as they do. And comparing the 680 to the 8800GTX is silly. The 8800 GTX was utterly dominant in every game. You can't lose a third of the games out there to the 7970 even at it's ridiculously low clock speeds and lose half the time at high resolution and be considered a dominant card. The 9700pro/8800 were dominant not either one of these cards.

A dominant card is one that crushes current gen competition and is still faster the next round a la the two cards mentioned above.
    
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Just so everyone does not go crazy about his card GTX680 will always be better. Single card is ~ same experience. SLI GTX680 will be superior. Why you ask. It has always been the case with Nvidia. Their top card will get better SLI driver in terms of stutter. So if you play to SLI 2 of these spend a bit more and get GTX680.

Umm, no. They're not going to release drivers that magically enhance the SLI performance of 680s just because it's their flagship card, and not provide the same boost to other 600 Series cards in SLI.

Kepler in general (meaning all GK104-based cards) introduces hardware-based frame metering in the GTX 600 series that makes micro-stuttering a non-issue. So please - stop spreading misinformation.
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Umm, no. They're not going to release drivers that magically enhance the SLI performance of 680s just because it's their flagship card, and not provide the same boost to other 600 Series cards in SLI.
Kepler in general (meaning all GK104-based cards) introduces hardware-based frame metering in the GTX 600 series that makes micro-stuttering a non-issue. So please - stop spreading misinformation.

That's not entirely true. Microstutter still exists but Nvidia has made large gains towards minimizing it. The secret however is just keeping your framerate over 60 and this goes for both manufacturers. Less then 60 and Nvidia is still a bit better but still stuttery. Vsynced 60 is pretty ace on both.
    
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Performance means absolutely nothing if you can't buy the card. Nvidia has so little stock of their 6xx series that people just can't buy them. They can be the best thing ever, but if you can't actually buy them who cares. Until they can supply sufficient stocks of their cards and cover all segments of the market they are losing to AMD imho.
I still consider the 6xx series a paper launch at this point. Just my opinion.

Wrong, there has been plenty of geforce stock but it sells quickly. Radeon had bad stock and sold slowly lol.
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I'm watching the arguments in this thread, and the entire time, all I've been able to think is "IF Nvidia can actually supply some GTX 670, 680 and 690 cards, then...."

Seriously, I'm seeing NO supply in the wild right now, and if the cards aren't available, then how can they be faster or better value? From what I'm seeing, the GTX 690 is selling for $1200 brand new right now. At that price, a $960 pair of HD 7970's suddenly looks VERY good by comparison.

Temper the excitement and arguments. I'll get excited about this card when I see it in the wild and people actually have it in their hands.
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I'm watching the arguments in this thread, and the entire time, all I've been able to think is "IF Nvidia can actually supply some GTX 670, 680 and 690 cards, then...."
Seriously, I'm seeing NO supply in the wild right now, and if the cards aren't available, then how can they be faster or better value? From what I'm seeing, the GTX 690 is selling for $1200 brand new right now. At that price, a $960 pair of HD 7970's suddenly looks VERY good by comparison.
Temper the excitement and arguments. I'll get excited about this card when I see it in the wild and people actually have it in their hands.

Just for the record, NewEgg is the only retailer that jacked up the price.

EVGA for example released it at $999 on their site, which is the MSRP.

NE is just taking advantage of the high demand for the 690, and even overpriced, they still managed to sell out within hours.
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