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Another thing I'm woefully ignorant about is the coolant. My understanding is the kill coil is useful for removing bacterial growth, the fluid itself needs to have properties such that it doesn't pick any/many ions from the other materials in the loop?
I'm really trying to get in this on the cheap and maybe upgrading later if I need to. Some have told me I'd need to buy better tubing than the XSPC kits, and I still have to buy coolant. At some point I may want to add more fans but right now I just want to get set up and functional </= $200ish.
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I don't think I can pony up enough money at this time for the extreme. So now I'm juggling between the 750 rx240 & the 750 rx360. Of the two the rx240 would definitely seem easier to mount in a HAF 922, the 360 would have to go on top after some mods I believe.

Then grab the RX240, it won't matter as I stated above. I'm 100% sure you will see the same temps as you would on a H100, minus maybe 1-3C, after you start overclocking. That 1-3C will not allow you to go any higher though.
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Another thing I'm woefully ignorant about is the coolant. My understanding is the kill coil is useful for removing bacterial growth, the fluid itself needs to have properties such that it doesn't pick any/many ions from the other materials in the loop?
I'm really trying to get in this on the cheap and maybe upgrading later if I need to. Some have told me I'd need to buy better tubing than the XSPC kits, and I still have to buy coolant. At some point I may want to add more fans but right now I just want to get set up and functional </= $200ish.

Go to Hy-vee, Walmart, etc. Grab a gallon of Distilled water and put a kill coil in your res. Don't mess with gimmicky fluids, this is all you need. Make sure you flush your radiator out.. it took like 3-4 hours to get perfectly clean for me. There are guides on how to do it, if you don't you will have lots of stuff in your loop.

It's a lot of work and i'm sure you'll see the same temps as the H100. I have the RX360 Extreme kit, and I still get 95C+ at only 1.29v on my 3770k.
Edited by Murlocke - 5/5/12 at 5:12pm
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After a D14/H100, nothing matters on Ivy Bridge. All that matters is your batch and how well your 22nm processor can get the heat out of its core and into your heatsink. Some processors do it faster than others, it's 100% luck. if the guy was getting bad temps on a H100, he will get bad temps on his custom loop too. One person on 1.3v can get 95C+, and another with the same volts and same cooling can get 80C. No matter what your processor hits a point where it won't be able to keep it's temps under control on any cooling outside of LN2. I've seen that be as low as 4.5GHz, and as high as 4.8GHz for the 3770k. Anyone i've seen over that is seeing 95C+ in IBT, and also above the max recommended voltage of 1.35v.
The i5 3570k handles this a little better, because it does not have HT, requires less voltages, and produces less heat. I see those getting about 4.6GHz to 4.9GHz on average, but after a certain point their temps will skyrocket to 95+ regardless of cooling. Same as the 3770k, just a little more breathing room.

not exactly true, those parts about cooling I mean. Stuff like waterchillers, TECs and phase can also handle the temps.
 
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The rasa kits are great,
I have the rs240 and I like it heaps, but I wish I had gone rx360 because I want to and my gpu in to the loop now, and I will probs have to grab exta rad space, so yer.... Just some more food for thought, and water cooling is so much fun, have a ball with it, give ur self a day to do And have fun
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not exactly true, those parts about cooling I mean. Stuff like waterchillers, TECs and phase can also handle the temps.

Yea, you are right I shouldn't of just said LN2.

What I mean was:
Basically anything that removes heat (Air, Water) will not perform any better. Anything that actually makes stuff colder (LN2, Chillers, etc) will.
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are you guys really suggesting that a $400 water cooling kit will produce the same result as a $100 H100 or even an air cooler? kookoo.gif

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I think they are. cigar.gif

Lol you two must be the only 2 people who dont know that ivy runs hot after a certain voltage regardless of air of water. Honestly theres like a hundred threads detailing this fact.
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Lol you two must be the only 2 people who dont know that ivy runs hot after a certain voltage regardless of air of water. Honestly theres like a hundred threads detailing this fact.

knowing that, whats the regular temps with no overclock for a regular user?
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knowing that, whats the regular temps with no overclock for a regular user?

Under 60C with IBT for me at stock voltage. Rather cold. That's like high 40s in games, but I am on water.. and water does make a difference at stock. After about 1.25->1.3v, not so much. tongue.gif

I really suggest the OP rethink his decision. It seems like he's running short on money, and should just get the H100 replaced or grab a Noctua D14 and get the same overclock for much less. If you really want a custom water loop for the epeen, or just as a hobby, then go for it. But don't expect better results on Ivy. It is more future proof though, as i'm sure these voltage leaks will be fixed for haswell, but that's not socket 1155 tongue.gif
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regular temps? Id of thought idle around 40C, max temp 60C. Same as sandy bridge
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save up $200 more and go single-stage phase.
Zero-degree water doesn't really even have much of an effect. (32F)
(on Sandy or Ivy) (At least Ivy responds to cold..somewhat)
If you want "better" cooling..click my sig..Danner mag5..waterblock..cooler..pipe..Gets better temps than anything with "rads"
Cost me $170
+ i can chuck a bag of ice every now and then biggrin.gif
PS: This setup is not very female-friendly ph34r-smiley.gif
They tend to hate it ..:lachen.gif:
Edited by Schmuckley - 5/5/12 at 5:41pm
 
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