Overclock.net › Forums › Specialty Builds › HTPC › SFF HTPCs? Can it be done and meet my specs?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

SFF HTPCs? Can it be done and meet my specs? - Page 2

post #11 of 27
not for satellite...if you have dish or directTV you can go to an electronic store to buy a DVR/tuner, but it has the same issue with an HTPC as I mentioned earlier.

Here is a quickie photo of my build:
DSCF3075.jpg

Specs are:
i3-2120
ASRock H67m-itx-HT
Wesena ITX-2
PicoPSU 150w
8 GB Kingston Hyper Blu 1333 RAM
120 GB Kingston Hyper X SSD
500 GB HDD (2.5")
Blu-Ray

Not pictured, I have an external Hauppage 2650 cablecard tuner.
monsterITX
(13 items)
 
mPowered
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k EVGA Z87 Stinger Sapphire 290x EVGA  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Samsung 850 Evo Seagate Barracuda Seagate Barracuda Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
LG 34UM65 EVGA Supernova 750G Case Labs Mercury S3 Logitech Performance MX 
Audio
Denon AVR-1913 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
4770k MSI MPower Max AC MSI GTX 780 Lightning MSI GTX 780 Lightning 
RAMHard DrivePowerCase
GSkill Trident Samsung 850 Pro EVGA 1300 Watt Case Labs Mercury S8 
  hide details  
Reply
monsterITX
(13 items)
 
mPowered
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k EVGA Z87 Stinger Sapphire 290x EVGA  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Samsung 850 Evo Seagate Barracuda Seagate Barracuda Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
LG 34UM65 EVGA Supernova 750G Case Labs Mercury S3 Logitech Performance MX 
Audio
Denon AVR-1913 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
4770k MSI MPower Max AC MSI GTX 780 Lightning MSI GTX 780 Lightning 
RAMHard DrivePowerCase
GSkill Trident Samsung 850 Pro EVGA 1300 Watt Case Labs Mercury S8 
  hide details  
Reply
post #12 of 27
Thread Starter 
Just a question about your previous comment -

You said satellite won't work, but DirecTV will.

I have DirecTV that is delivered through satellite.... Wouldn't an Internal or External CableCard tuner work alright? I assume I would then be able to do One or Two channel DVR.

Also, I've come to terms that at the moment I won't be able to mount this thing behind my TV, but so far, I'm finding a very few cases that are in a mid-size range. Everything seems to have one dimension that is 16 inches +

Ideally, I'd love something that can handle Two 3.5" drives, Mobo, Video Card, Cable Card, and potentially a slim DVD drive with decent cooling. If it can't handle that many drives, I'll have to accept going with one and use more NAS.

This is the only thing I've seen that is close :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811121100 - Although everyone says the PSU in this thing is bunk.
Edited by Kaeth - 5/7/12 at 8:49am
Carbon
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-6700k ASUS Z170-AR ASUS 1070GTX ROG STRIX 2x8GB Corsair DDR4-2400 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung EVO 850 SSD Corsair H90 Windows 10 Dell S2716dg 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech MK520 Seasonic X650 Fractal Design Define S Logitech MX Master 
Audio
Audio-Technica M50x 
  hide details  
Reply
Carbon
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-6700k ASUS Z170-AR ASUS 1070GTX ROG STRIX 2x8GB Corsair DDR4-2400 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung EVO 850 SSD Corsair H90 Windows 10 Dell S2716dg 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech MK520 Seasonic X650 Fractal Design Define S Logitech MX Master 
Audio
Audio-Technica M50x 
  hide details  
Reply
post #13 of 27
Perhaps I should clarify. With ANY satellite (including DirecTV and Dish) based system, you will NOT be able to use the cablecard tuners. They are ONLY compatible with cable based systems that use the multi-stream cablecard standards.

The ONLY way to make DirecTV or Dish (or any other satellite-based system) work is to purchase an analog TV tuner and run the video/audio signal from the satellite box into that. You will have no guide or tuning functionality on the PC and will only be able to record 1 channel (the one you are viewing,) all of that will be run through the DirecTV or Dish receiver.

If you want to see more cases designed specifically for HTPC and are certainly more stylish, I would look here.

Side note: Personally, I keep the number of drives in my HTPCs to a minimum and utilize a NAS. Most HTPCs are very sensitive to heat (due to lack of fans for noise issues) and multiple drives can create quite a bit of extra heat in a small case.
monsterITX
(13 items)
 
mPowered
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k EVGA Z87 Stinger Sapphire 290x EVGA  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Samsung 850 Evo Seagate Barracuda Seagate Barracuda Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
LG 34UM65 EVGA Supernova 750G Case Labs Mercury S3 Logitech Performance MX 
Audio
Denon AVR-1913 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
4770k MSI MPower Max AC MSI GTX 780 Lightning MSI GTX 780 Lightning 
RAMHard DrivePowerCase
GSkill Trident Samsung 850 Pro EVGA 1300 Watt Case Labs Mercury S8 
  hide details  
Reply
monsterITX
(13 items)
 
mPowered
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k EVGA Z87 Stinger Sapphire 290x EVGA  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Samsung 850 Evo Seagate Barracuda Seagate Barracuda Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
LG 34UM65 EVGA Supernova 750G Case Labs Mercury S3 Logitech Performance MX 
Audio
Denon AVR-1913 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
4770k MSI MPower Max AC MSI GTX 780 Lightning MSI GTX 780 Lightning 
RAMHard DrivePowerCase
GSkill Trident Samsung 850 Pro EVGA 1300 Watt Case Labs Mercury S8 
  hide details  
Reply
post #14 of 27
Not sure how to correctly follow/watch/subscribe to threads, so I'll just place this here as this is relevant to my interests.
My old friend
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E8400 @ 3.6GHz Gigabyte EP45-UD3P Gigabyte GTX 1050 Patriot Viper 2x2GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
WD 640 Black SK Hynix SL300 SSD Win7 64bit Professional Hanns-G 
PowerCase
Corsair TX750 Lancool K62 
  hide details  
Reply
My old friend
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E8400 @ 3.6GHz Gigabyte EP45-UD3P Gigabyte GTX 1050 Patriot Viper 2x2GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
WD 640 Black SK Hynix SL300 SSD Win7 64bit Professional Hanns-G 
PowerCase
Corsair TX750 Lancool K62 
  hide details  
Reply
post #15 of 27
Thread Starter 
I guess I'm unsure why there is a difference between Cable and Dish.

In Colorado (Or all of USA?) last year, all TV providers were forced to go digital. They gave out Digital->Analog Boxes for at reduced cost for a while. What is the difference between a Dish Signal and a Cable signal? Both need Decrypted via the Cable card.
Carbon
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-6700k ASUS Z170-AR ASUS 1070GTX ROG STRIX 2x8GB Corsair DDR4-2400 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung EVO 850 SSD Corsair H90 Windows 10 Dell S2716dg 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech MK520 Seasonic X650 Fractal Design Define S Logitech MX Master 
Audio
Audio-Technica M50x 
  hide details  
Reply
Carbon
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-6700k ASUS Z170-AR ASUS 1070GTX ROG STRIX 2x8GB Corsair DDR4-2400 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung EVO 850 SSD Corsair H90 Windows 10 Dell S2716dg 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech MK520 Seasonic X650 Fractal Design Define S Logitech MX Master 
Audio
Audio-Technica M50x 
  hide details  
Reply
post #16 of 27
Circled where to click to subscribe to a thread
336
monsterITX
(13 items)
 
mPowered
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k EVGA Z87 Stinger Sapphire 290x EVGA  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Samsung 850 Evo Seagate Barracuda Seagate Barracuda Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
LG 34UM65 EVGA Supernova 750G Case Labs Mercury S3 Logitech Performance MX 
Audio
Denon AVR-1913 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
4770k MSI MPower Max AC MSI GTX 780 Lightning MSI GTX 780 Lightning 
RAMHard DrivePowerCase
GSkill Trident Samsung 850 Pro EVGA 1300 Watt Case Labs Mercury S8 
  hide details  
Reply
monsterITX
(13 items)
 
mPowered
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k EVGA Z87 Stinger Sapphire 290x EVGA  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Samsung 850 Evo Seagate Barracuda Seagate Barracuda Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
LG 34UM65 EVGA Supernova 750G Case Labs Mercury S3 Logitech Performance MX 
Audio
Denon AVR-1913 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
4770k MSI MPower Max AC MSI GTX 780 Lightning MSI GTX 780 Lightning 
RAMHard DrivePowerCase
GSkill Trident Samsung 850 Pro EVGA 1300 Watt Case Labs Mercury S8 
  hide details  
Reply
post #17 of 27
Sorry for the double post guys...


They utilize different standards...both Dish and DirecTV have their own proprietary system. If they used the same standard, you could use a comcast cablebox for DirecTV and vice-versa..however, this is not the case.

The digital requirement was for over the air transmission, it has nothing to do with cable or satellite
monsterITX
(13 items)
 
mPowered
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k EVGA Z87 Stinger Sapphire 290x EVGA  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Samsung 850 Evo Seagate Barracuda Seagate Barracuda Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
LG 34UM65 EVGA Supernova 750G Case Labs Mercury S3 Logitech Performance MX 
Audio
Denon AVR-1913 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
4770k MSI MPower Max AC MSI GTX 780 Lightning MSI GTX 780 Lightning 
RAMHard DrivePowerCase
GSkill Trident Samsung 850 Pro EVGA 1300 Watt Case Labs Mercury S8 
  hide details  
Reply
monsterITX
(13 items)
 
mPowered
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k EVGA Z87 Stinger Sapphire 290x EVGA  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Samsung 850 Evo Seagate Barracuda Seagate Barracuda Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
LG 34UM65 EVGA Supernova 750G Case Labs Mercury S3 Logitech Performance MX 
Audio
Denon AVR-1913 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
4770k MSI MPower Max AC MSI GTX 780 Lightning MSI GTX 780 Lightning 
RAMHard DrivePowerCase
GSkill Trident Samsung 850 Pro EVGA 1300 Watt Case Labs Mercury S8 
  hide details  
Reply
post #18 of 27
Thread Starter 
I guess I'm just surprised. I find it hard to believe that so many vendors develop set top boxes and Tuner cards for cable, but not for satellite?

There are a great many people that advertise Satellite capability, no less.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Satellite+PC+Tuner+Card&hl=en&biw=924&bih=556&prmd=imvnsz&source=univ&tbm=shop&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=1ASoT_b4FaOqiQKP2JzAAg&ved=0CJsBEK0E

Admittedly however, I've never heard any of these Brands, and none of the Happauge tuners explicitly say whether or not they can handle Satellite, but this one might be able to do something: http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hvr1950.html

Just seems.... odd.

A great number of users on are Dish, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a 35-65 split Dish-Cable.

Edit: It looks like most of the Satellite advertised ones are for Free-To-Air only, which sort of makes sense.

I'm just tired of forking over 10 bucks a month to Qworst for a ****ty DVR box where the Hard Drive is always dying, and an even worse box that they at least gave me for free.
Edited by Kaeth - 5/7/12 at 10:39am
Carbon
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-6700k ASUS Z170-AR ASUS 1070GTX ROG STRIX 2x8GB Corsair DDR4-2400 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung EVO 850 SSD Corsair H90 Windows 10 Dell S2716dg 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech MK520 Seasonic X650 Fractal Design Define S Logitech MX Master 
Audio
Audio-Technica M50x 
  hide details  
Reply
Carbon
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-6700k ASUS Z170-AR ASUS 1070GTX ROG STRIX 2x8GB Corsair DDR4-2400 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung EVO 850 SSD Corsair H90 Windows 10 Dell S2716dg 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech MK520 Seasonic X650 Fractal Design Define S Logitech MX Master 
Audio
Audio-Technica M50x 
  hide details  
Reply
post #19 of 27
The reason for no satellite is that there is no standard. I know it's been mentioned on here, but FCC created a law that said that cable companies must allow the use of a standard cable card, similar in size to a PCMCIA card. So companies like Hauppague and Ceton can use those cards to decrypt the signal. However Dish network uses a different system than Directv...., so Hauppauge and Ceton can receive the cable out from the tuner, but they won't be able to be the tuner.
post #20 of 27
Thread Starter 
That makes sense, and it's not your fault, but that is absurdly silly.

I realize standards are hard to agree on due to quality / propriety issues, but I guess no one understands that Standards do in fact raise profits.

I'd switch from Clink if it weren't for the fact that out here in Colorado, Comcast is the only other option and they're just as bad if not worse. Sigh. My brother got 40mbps in Sweden for 12 bucks a month. Here I pay $45 for "7" which often means "4.5 on a good day." Barely .5 upload. Wish my state would enter the 21st century.

Ultimately this means no HTPC for me. If I can't get rid of the set top, there's just no reason whatsoever to build an HTPC to do what my WDTV already does minus a few features.

I can't +Rep you Herkalurk (Moderator thing?), but thanks.
Carbon
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-6700k ASUS Z170-AR ASUS 1070GTX ROG STRIX 2x8GB Corsair DDR4-2400 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung EVO 850 SSD Corsair H90 Windows 10 Dell S2716dg 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech MK520 Seasonic X650 Fractal Design Define S Logitech MX Master 
Audio
Audio-Technica M50x 
  hide details  
Reply
Carbon
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-6700k ASUS Z170-AR ASUS 1070GTX ROG STRIX 2x8GB Corsair DDR4-2400 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung EVO 850 SSD Corsair H90 Windows 10 Dell S2716dg 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech MK520 Seasonic X650 Fractal Design Define S Logitech MX Master 
Audio
Audio-Technica M50x 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: HTPC
Overclock.net › Forums › Specialty Builds › HTPC › SFF HTPCs? Can it be done and meet my specs?