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post #11 of 53
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Originally Posted by Recursion View Post

All proposals are nice but I would change ram (8 gb is a must), windows 7 ultimate (windows home is a joke) . Another problem is the stock coolers on the cpu and gpu. I would change them instantly for a better cooler. For example a cpu cooler noctua nh-u12 sp2 and a gpu cooler scythe setsugen 2. They simply cool better and are less noisier. Those cooler are costly, too. For a beginner budget build with a bit oc in mind I can recommend my build which should be only ~$400 in the us. And you can play almost any games with 1600x1040 and high quality settings. It's probably better to get a 990FX and buy a second Geforce 450 GTS latter for a SLI build. My Phenom 2 x2 550 c2 stepping unlocks to x4.

4GB is plenty. I ran 4GB for a couple years and only recently upgraded to 8GB just to upgrade something and noticed no difference at all. And Win7 Home is a joke? Umm...ok. Works pretty great for me. Maybe 8GB and Win7 Ultimate are important for work or something but this is a gaming rig and those things wont make a difference in gaming performance. And the stock coolers on AMD procs are pretty solid. Ive dont a lot of overclocking with them before I finally got my Hyper 212 and youd be surprised how high you can clock these things with the stock coolers.

With a budget of $700 youre very limited so it doesnt make much sense to start wasting money on more RAM than you need, a fancier OS than you need and coolers that you dont need. These things are all great and everything but theyre things that can be added later on down the road as the guy saves up more cash. The rig I posted would play anything at 1920x1080 and everything but only a couple games on full max settings. When youre budget is only $700, you really gotta concentrate on CPU and especially GPU gaming muscle when youre talking about a gaming PC.
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hi buddy for 700$ i had a 2mins pick and here is what i came up with
PCPartPicker part list
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 960T Black 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($124.63 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($227.55 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z9 ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Rosewill 630W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total (before mail-in rebates): $705.13 Shipped
Mail-in Rebates: $-40.00
Total: $665.13
there you can run almost anything at medium-High @ 1o8oP thumb.gif and thereis more to come you can overclock the system for more fun with the 40$ MIR get a Decent HSF like a 212 + or EVO or better wink.gif
Hope you liked it smile.gif

Thats a solid build but he's gotta have Windows 7 too and thatll tack on another $100 and put him over his budget.
Edited by MacLeod - 5/5/12 at 11:16pm
post #12 of 53
and if you are buying everything from Newegg then have a look HERE add NCIX US if you can you will save around 20$- 30$ overall i guess
post #13 of 53
hi thanx MacLeod here is my try i could not exactly get it under 700$ but it would interest you i guess so
PCPartPicker part list

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 960T Black 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($124.63 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.99 @ Newegg)

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB Video Card ($187.55 @ Newegg)

Case: Zalman Z9 ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Microcenter)

Power Supply: Rosewill 630W ATX12V / EPS12V
Power Supply
($49.99 @ Newegg)

OS : windows 7 64bit 86.99$

Total (before mail-in rebates): $706.12
Mail-in Rebates: $-40.00
Total: $666.12

guys any changes or comments pls speak up
Hope you like it smile.gif
Edited by Tarun - 5/5/12 at 11:42pm
post #14 of 53
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4GB is plenty. I ran 4GB for a couple years and only recently upgraded to 8GB just to upgrade something and noticed no difference at all. And Win7 Home is a joke? Umm...ok. Works pretty great for me. Maybe 8GB and Win7 Ultimate are important for work or something but this is a gaming rig and those things wont make a difference in gaming performance. And the stock coolers on AMD procs are pretty solid. Ive dont a lot of overclocking with them before I finally got my Hyper 212 and youd be surprised how high you can clock these things with the stock coolers.
With a budget of $700 youre very limited so it doesnt make much sense to start wasting money on more RAM than you need, a fancier OS than you need and coolers that you dont need. These things are all great and everything but theyre things that can be added later on down the road as the guy saves up more cash. The rig I posted would play anything at 1920x1080 and everything but only a couple games on full max settings. When youre budget is only $700, you really gotta concentrate on CPU and especially GPU gaming muscle when youre talking about a gaming PC.
Thats a solid build but he's gotta have Windows 7 too and thatll tack on another $100 and put him over his budget.

No, but it's true that my build isn't so fast. I've the long range artillery and you are marines with a greatsword or two-handed great-sword. There is a difference with 8 Gb ram windows loads much faster and compared to a SSD the additional 4 GB ram is cheap. Windows 7 Ultimate can be usefull with the windows xp mode for some games. It's just not a noob os like windows home. I don't know about the stock amd coolers because I think you mean those with the heatpipes? Well, I would change them anyway. The Scythe Musashi cools my gpu 20°C better not to mention it's end of life.

This is one is also nice:

FREE MOTHERBOARD /W PROCESSOR
$90 Processor : PHENOM II X4 960T (MOST UNLOCK TO A 6 CORE)
http://www.microcenter.com/specials/promotions/AMDbundlePROMO.html

$34.99 Kingston HyperX blu 8GB DDR3-1333
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0353218


$34.99 Logisys Mid Tower ATX Computer Case with 480 Watt Power Supply
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0373898


$49.99 Hitachi Travelstar Z5K500 320GB ( I would get a used one on ebay instead)
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0371989



$229.99 N560GTX-TI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0355794

OR

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0387845
$129.99 Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition


Comes out to be around $470 after taxes and everything

OR if you get the Radeon 7770 (15% slower than a gtx 560ti once overclocked)

You only pay $370 total


I would get the Radeon 7770, better bang on the buck and it wont be so hard on the psu

and if you want the 7770 instead, you can get a better better combo motherboard so you can do crossfire later with 2 of them

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7770-7750-benchmark,3135-5.html

7770 is a good value, but when you overclock it, it will be right under a 560ti
Edited by Recursion - 5/6/12 at 2:52am
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post #15 of 53
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hi thanx MacLeod here is my try i could not exactly get it under 700$ but it would interest you i guess so
PCPartPicker part list
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 960T Black 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($124.63 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB Video Card ($187.55 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z9 ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Rosewill 630W ATX12V / EPS12V
Power Supply
($49.99 @ Newegg)
OS : windows 7 64bit 86.99$

Total (before mail-in rebates): $706.12
Mail-in Rebates: $-40.00
Total: $666.12
guys any changes or comments pls speak up
Hope you like it smile.gif

any thing wrong in this ?????? ironman what do you think ???
post #16 of 53
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any thing wrong in this ?????? ironman what do you think ???

Thats a good one. About the same as mine as a 6870 and GTX560Ti are about comparable. Not crazy about the Rosewill power supply. I know some of their stuff is pretty decent but Id rather stick to a Corsair or Antec or such. And I prefer the Antec 300 as a budget/entry level case. They are very well built, have enough room for up to an 11" video card and has tons spots for case fans. Great case. So yeah, I like mine better. biggrin.gif
post #17 of 53
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Thats a good one. About the same as mine as a 6870 and GTX560Ti are about comparable. Not crazy about the Rosewill power supply. I know some of their stuff is pretty decent but Id rather stick to a Corsair or Antec or such. And I prefer the Antec 300 as a budget/entry level case. They are very well built, have enough room for up to an 11" video card and has tons spots for case fans. Great case. So yeah, I like mine better. biggrin.gif

If you are talking about Corsair CX series they are actually worse than Rosewill Green in terms of quality.
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^This is perfect IMO ..gfx could be interchangeable with something else..but this is good,yah! :thumb.gif:
FX series is no bueno IMO
and umm..960T has a lot more power/throughput than an i3 2100
Those dual-core-with-hyperthreading chips choke on heavy games. I.E> GTA IV,Crysis
I'd go cheaper on the case to save some $$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119247

or just get the cheapest mid-tower..They all work biggrin.gif
Edited by Schmuckley - 5/6/12 at 11:22am
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^This is perfect IMO ..gfx could be interchangeable with something else..but this is good,yah! :thumb.gif:
FX series is no bueno IMO
and umm..960T has a lot more power/throughput than an i3 2100
Those dual-core-with-hyperthreading chips choke on heavy games. I.E> GTA IV,Crysis
I'd go cheaper on the case to save some $$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119247

or just get the cheapest mid-tower..They all work biggrin.gif

the 6870 is very close to the 560 and costs less. for the power supply, either rosewill green or corsair cx would be fine.
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Antec 300 case -- $60 with $10 mail in rebate
ASRock 970 Extreme3 -- $80
Phenom II X4 960T -- $125
Sapphire 6870 -- $160 with $10 mail in rebate
Seasonic 620 watt PSU -- $70
Seagate 750GB hard drive -- $82
Corsair 4GB RAM -- $25
LG DVD drive -- $18
Windows 7 -- $100
That is $720 with $20 mail in rebates. Itll handle any game at 1920x1080 with max or very close to max settings. Plus you can drop in a 2nd 6870 later on when you get the cash and have enough GPU horsepower to shred any game out there.
As for the AMD hate from the Intel trolls thats sure to be in here before too long, Intel is faster but problem is, unless youre running multiple GPU's and very high resolutions, youre not going to see the differences in real world game play. A 960T is plenty capable of handling all your games as is any AMD processor. Nothing wrong with an AMD system at all.

A 6870 can hadle games at max settings? Since when?
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