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For crying out loud. I wasn't suggesting he buy a Sabertooth, I was just using that as an example of how an Intel board will cost more than am equivalent AMD board. :banghead:
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You wouldnt need an equivalent board since you will NOT be overclocking kookoo.gif

Maybe if you were comparing the 2500K and the 960T, but you should not be using equivalent mobos for running an i3 at stock and overclocking a 960T....

Lets say I want to get this board with my i3...
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=66933&vpn=GA-H61M-DS2&manufacture=Gigabyte

What would you suggest for it's equivalent this board?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500045&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Motherboards%20-%20AMD-_-ZOTAC-_-13500045&AID=10440897&PID=3938566&SID=
Would you recommend ocing on that board?

I wouldn't recommend that board period. I think it's a good idea to get a board with a good upgrade path. Buying a cheap POS like that is gonna mean if you do want to upgrade to a 2500K later on, you're gonna need a new motherboard. I would recommend something a little beefier so when you save up more cash later on or just want an upgrade later on, all you'll have to do is drop an IB or Piledriver in and you'll be set.

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You wouldnt need an equivalent board since you will NOT be overclocking kookoo.gif
Maybe if you were comparing the 2500K and the 960T, but you should not be using equivalent mobos for running an i3 at stock and overclocking a 960T....
Lets say I want to get this board with my i3...
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=66933&vpn=GA-H61M-DS2&manufacture=Gigabyte
What would you suggest for it's equivalent this board?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500045&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Motherboards%20-%20AMD-_-ZOTAC-_-13500045&AID=10440897&PID=3938566&SID=
Would you recommend ocing on that board?

ironman, how about these . . .

For the i3

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138344

For the 960T

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131767

EDIT: just waiting for microcenter to offer the i7SB for $200 again and i'll pair it with that board. sweet!
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post #43 of 53
i still say to the OP, look at my signiture. Less than 600$ and is a pretty solid budget PC. IMO at least. I have had no problems and i run everything that i want on it smooth with no problems. Cept for my internet that keeps going out at least once a day, but that has nothing to do with the build.
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I tried, couldn't get it to burn. What's it supposed to do? rolleyes.gif

oh, it can. highest cpu mark i got so far with the 960T is 8412. i know you are being sarcastic. take it easy Redz.
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post #45 of 53
How about this it's $744.04 with $50 in rebates so it's $694.04 plus shipping.

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^ For $750 shipped counting OS that is a bit disappointing.  There should be at least a 6870 in there for this price.  PSU is meh for price (RG530 for $45 shipped is way better than $60 + $3 shipping + $20 rebates for an inferior unit)..... no VRM cooling.... the measly 6850.....

post #47 of 53
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This review should not be trusted for realistic comparisons and I recommend that anyone recommending this review as a reference to be immediately condemned.

What kind of realistic buyer would pair a <$200 CPU with a >$500 GPU?  Much less ever need or be buying a >$500 GPU?
This review tests with the HD 7970 which makes it a completely unrealistic descriptor for the real world scenario and PC.  The differences are not as apparent where $100-300 GPUs are compared as would probably be chosen with <$200 CPUs in more realistic PC configurations.

Unfortunately, that is too often the case with TomsHardware. TomsHardware also consistently seems to get higher scores for their Intel chips, but the same scores everyone else gets for their AMD chips. Anandtech is also starting to follow suit.

To all the "Who is better blah blah" it's pointless. They are the same. If you recommend the i3, you are forcing the OP to consciously choose between a feature locked board, or an expensive board he cannot use. Barring that the OP posted on "overclock.net" there is a probable chance that he will one day want to learn what a BIOS is, and try his hand at overclocking. When the performance is so negligible, why would you, as enthusiasts, deny him some fun with his own computer.

The only definite reason to buy the i3 would be if the OP wants lower power consumption, or brand name preference.
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post #48 of 53
my two cents:
have had a 960t on a 890-fxa-ud5 AM3 board since the chip hit the market. early adopter. easy/great OC, and good unlocker. I play with a ATi 5870, TOR maxxed, BF3 mix between high and ultra [lil more framerates vs distance eyecandy] -- it's been really nice. It plays ultra, but I want more than 32frames.

AND, just ordered for my brother and his family this past monday, almost the exact same spec you posted originally for their home computer. I'm giving them some ripjaws ram and a gtx260, which gave a little more flex for a caviar black and sesonic powersupply -- but what you have going is what I priced first, and the hyper 212 which keeps the guy really really cold. Goal was around $700, and I am really excited for them. It's a bit narcissistic, but I really like the build I have at home and was stoked they are doing the same.

I have one of the Intel i3's at work, and my 960t with boot and general productivity feels significantly faster. Im not benchmarking or gaming at work, and it's a Dell with only 4g ram and crappy onboard intel graphics -- but webrowsing and office feel slower. Just two cents. I wouldnt second guess the choice of chip, the AM3+ platform should give at least a few more good upgrades.

You're going to love the chip and the combo your are looking, including graphics, should be much better than what I see at home with the 5870.
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Wow you guys sure know how to derail a thread...... doh.gif

Thread cleaned. Keep it on topic or infractions will be dealt out, that was rediculous.

To the OP:
Honestly the 960T and the i3 2120 will be relatively close in performance. The i3 2120 does overclock, I got a nice 3.5GHz out of mine. They seem to respond to BCLK adjustments better than their K counterparts. The choice is ultimately up to you. You could get a nice P67 / Z68 board with the i3 (board and CPU prices being very close to the AMD counterparts), or you can get a 960T with a decent AM3 board. Either option is fine, and will perform great. The 1155 platform will have more future upgrade paths to it though with a 2500k, 2600k, 2700k, 3570k, or 3770k. Like it or not, for gaming (especially if you plan to use more than one GPU down the road), the Intel systems will do better. If you're only ever going to use a single GPU, and never a REALLY high end one...the AMD system will do fine.

The choice is yours. Both systems (with good boards) will cost about the same, and will perform very close to the same. It's just a matter of personal preference and future upgrade paths.
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Wow you guys sure know how to derail a thread...... doh.gif
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To the OP:
Honestly the 960T and the i3 2120 will be relatively close in performance. The i3 2120 does overclock, I got a nice 3.5GHz out of mine. They seem to respond to BCLK adjustments better than their K counterparts. The choice is ultimately up to you. You could get a nice P67 / Z68 board with the i3 (board and CPU prices being very close to the AMD counterparts), or you can get a 960T with a decent AM3 board. Either option is fine, and will perform great. The 1155 platform will have more future upgrade paths to it though with a 2500k, 2600k, 2700k, 3570k, or 3770k. Like it or not, for gaming (especially if you plan to use more than one GPU down the road), the Intel systems will do better. If you're only ever going to use a single GPU, and never a REALLY high end one...the AMD system will do fine.
The choice is yours. Both systems (with good boards) will cost about the same, and will perform very close to the same. It's just a matter of personal preference and future upgrade paths.

wow i didnt know the 960t is close to an i3? so whats currently, the fastest amd desktop cpu in ur opinion?
 
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