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I prefer eraser everywhere:

700


Or if I need a quickie, eraser around the socket and clay everywhere else:

700



Never had a problem with either cracking. Both are pretty easy to clean off.
 
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I use both, for sandy & chips that have a CBB under -125° or so I use the dragon skin, for AMD & chips that can do full pot I use LET. Found that with full pot benching dragon skin can crack, LET seems to be a bit better for really cold.

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I use liquid electrical tape instead of grease. It is easier to clean up and it isn't messy!


Thanks guys for the reply am i able to buy LET here in ozy?should i just go into some electric shop and ask for liquid electrical tape?
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i see you pouring one layer of liquid silicone.. where's the second part? also, is that kneaded eraser around the edge of the pour area?
You mix the two parts together so it makes a chemical reaction. Yep kneaded eraser around the edges or you could use tape but this was faster and easier.
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Thanks guys for the reply am i able to buy LET here in ozy?should i just go into some electric shop and ask for liquid electrical tape?
Yeah any home building supply should carry it or electrical shop. It's pretty common.
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You mix the two parts together so it makes a chemical reaction. Yep kneaded eraser around the edges or you could use tape but this was faster and easier.
Yeah any home building supply should carry it or electrical shop. It's pretty common.
Thanks NoGuru,
I'll start looking around for it
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Thanks NoGuru,
I'll start looking around for it
No problem. Are buddy jjjc is from Perth, he may be able to help you find the supply's needed.
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Hey Bullant, I think I had a vague discussion with you over on OCAU? Can't be sure, my memory is shot. redface.gif

As for finding a Dewar, I really can't help much there. I just struck luck with mine and grabbed a used one from a now inactive bencher in Perth. Only thing I can suggest there is to make a WTB or such thread on OCAU and see if anybody has anything going. Don't forget to ask about the condition and vacuum of the dewar, if the vacuum is screwed then it will only hold LN2 for a day or so. A good once like mine will hold it for weeks.

As for a flask, you just need a standard run of the mill coffee flask from BigW or something like that. I have a few $10 ones and they do the job well for holding and pouring LN2 into the pot.

You'll find everybody has their own sort of materials and methods for insulation, and as you go on you'll find your preference too. Personally, I just like to keep it quick and cheap. Vaseline, paper towels and a piece of foam for full pot benching. I just grab a paint brush and go over the board with a thin layer of vaseline, then insulate the socket area with paper towels and foam. You can find good sheets of closed cell foam at Clark Rubber, should only cost you $15 or so for a nice big sheet that will last you ages.

Some LN2 suppliers to try are Freezeright, BOC and Air Liquide. Freezeright is my current supplier and they're nice people with decent prices. I pay about $3.50 a litre with delivery which is quite expensive, but just slightly better than BOC's $5 a litre charge. Try and negotiate prices when you're talking to a supplier, they can often do a better deal then their set retail prices.

The F1 Extreme Dark is a great pot, I love mine. Heaps of mass and works beautifully. Another often overlooked tool in LN2 benching is a heatgun or gas torch. I recommend the torch as it can heat up the pot faster and without blowing ice all over your board. There are different tiers of gas torches however, bunnings have a few but the only one worth having is the ~$130 version. I can't remember the model number off the top of my head, but it's far better than the cheaper stuff they have there, the cheap ones just keep going out when you put the flame in the pot.

Hopefully that's of some help, I'm sub'd to this thread now so if you have any further questions then ask away and I'll keep checking back in. smile.gif
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Hey Bullant, I think I had a vague discussion with you over on OCAU? Can't be sure, my memory is shot. redface.gif
As for finding a Dewar, I really can't help much there. I just struck luck with mine and grabbed a used one from a now inactive bencher in Perth. Only thing I can suggest there is to make a WTB or such thread on OCAU and see if anybody has anything going. Don't forget to ask about the condition and vacuum of the dewar, if the vacuum is screwed then it will only hold LN2 for a day or so. A good once like mine will hold it for weeks.
As for a flask, you just need a standard run of the mill coffee flask from BigW or something like that. I have a few $10 ones and they do the job well for holding and pouring LN2 into the pot.
You'll find everybody has their own sort of materials and methods for insulation, and as you go on you'll find your preference too. Personally, I just like to keep it quick and cheap. Vaseline, paper towels and a piece of foam for full pot benching. I just grab a paint brush and go over the board with a thin layer of vaseline, then insulate the socket area with paper towels and foam. You can find good sheets of closed cell foam at Clark Rubber, should only cost you $15 or so for a nice big sheet that will last you ages.
Some LN2 suppliers to try are Freezeright, BOC and Air Liquide. Freezeright is my current supplier and they're nice people with decent prices. I pay about $3.50 a litre with delivery which is quite expensive, but just slightly better than BOC's $5 a litre charge. Try and negotiate prices when you're talking to a supplier, they can often do a better deal then their set retail prices.
The F1 Extreme Dark is a great pot, I love mine. Heaps of mass and works beautifully. Another often overlooked tool in LN2 benching is a heatgun or gas torch. I recommend the torch as it can heat up the pot faster and without blowing ice all over your board. There are different tiers of gas torches however, bunnings have a few but the only one worth having is the ~$130 version. I can't remember the model number off the top of my head, but it's far better than the cheaper stuff they have there, the cheap ones just keep going out when you put the flame in the pot.
Hopefully that's of some help, I'm sub'd to this thread now so if you have any further questions then ask away and I'll keep checking back in. smile.gif
Thanks jjjc,we did speak on OCAU,thanks for the great detail in this reply, its a real help.Ive rang Boc down were i live and i can get LN2 here for about $4.50 ltr .In the process of ordering the F1 Extreme Dark pot like you said before.Boc want $1200 for a Dewar bit to much so ill keep shopping around for a Dewar,The torch is a must so thanks for that info on what one to get.
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You mix the two parts together so it makes a chemical reaction. Yep kneaded eraser around the edges or you could use tape but this was faster and easier.

i assume you can then easily peel of the silicone when youre done benching?
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i assume you can then easily peel of the silicone when youre done benching?
Yep, comes off in one piece if you want it too, but I leave it on even if I run 24/7 it won't hurt anything.
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Hey guys,
Ive just emailed Vince and put my order in for some gear,slowly getting there,was wondering are the MVE Dewars any good?
Thanks
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