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I figure you do not have enough slack on the runs to an from the reservoir to allow it to be pulled out enough on the front to get easily to the screws. However, if you got enough slack to pull it out enough to see the back screws through the acrylic panels, you could try taking a small screwdriver/Allen key and your arm through the neighboring front 5.25" bays to work on it while it's still partially in the bay. Will be a bit tricky, but doable.
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The reservoir fillport should be facing up. If you turn the reservoir around in which the fillport is facing down then you might get into some problems with adding liquid cooling fluids or running an extension fillport tubing up to the extension fillport at the top of your PC.

I too got into some problems in determining the inlet & outlet ports of the Alphacool reservoir. Normally, like the Koolance & XSPC bay reservoirs that I used before the inlet port is in the left & the opposite port is the outlet port. It's not so with this particular reservoir. One thing I've notice after I've used the reservoir was that the liquid coolant seems to be running in the opposite direction. I've confirmed this when I changed my dark tubes into transparent UV red when I really saw the liquid coolant running on the opposite direction. The above image is correct. The inlet should be at the right.

As far as the noise level, you need not to worry much about it. My experienced with this reservoir is that after about I think 2 to 3 weeks of use the grinding noise is deminished. I can best described this as the "break in period" much like the first time you drive a new car. You probably just need to flush your loop after this break in period to remove the small acrylic particles which I think is present as a result of the ceramic impeller grinding with acrylic when it came into contact with the acrylic reservoir pump housing (though I did not see any acrylic particles floating around).

I've actually purchased a second Alphacool reservoir rather than returning the first one that I bought & having to wait. The second one I bought is somewhat better that what I got the first time. I can now easily stuck it inside one of my drive bays without using much force. I'm also now using the 2 additional longer screws that came with the acrylic pump housing cover for better hold (with added washers). As for the reservoir faceplate, it still looks bad. I decided to replace the faceplate with that of my old XSPC reservoir faceplate & it now looks a lot better (at least it's not too flashy if I'm to describe it).

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I can't seems to find a fillport adapter that fits top fillport of the reservoir. I've e-mailed frozenCPU about this last night hoping to find one. I'm still waiting for their response.
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I figure you do not have enough slack on the runs to an from the reservoir to allow it to be pulled out enough on the front to get easily to the screws. However, if you got enough slack to pull it out enough to see the back screws through the acrylic panels, you could try taking a small screwdriver/Allen key and your arm through the neighboring front 5.25" bays to work on it while it's still partially in the bay. Will be a bit tricky, but doable.

I would have to sort of almost fully disassemble my system for getting to that res. Its in a modded case where one of the side-panels is not removable (it has 9x120mm rad on it).. or well it sort of can be moved a bit but its major hassle. All nine 5.25'' bays are full. and stuff above res is a lot longer than the res, res is one of the bottom bays. And behind the res there is major rats nest of wiring as my case is really small (430x430x185mm) and my PSU is non modular.
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But I'll think about it. It's possible I might need to drain my system soon again as my GFX card is hitting 100 C under full load so there is some kind of issue with that. Bad contact or dunno. As it currently stands, however, I don't have physical access to that res. Only things accessible are the pump wires and that part of the loop that's far enough from the res.


Anyway, at least I now know for sure which port is the inlet wink.gif My tubing is red and semitransparent so I was able to track the movement of air bubbles by eye for determining the flow direction. At least now I know its supposed to be that way.

The pump which is making that grinding noise is connected to the res with my own screws which were longer than the ones coming with the res. The one which is quiet is connected with the 6 mm ones. I bough a 2 port fan controller for now and downvolted the grinding pump so low that it does not make that horrific noise. The main selling point of this system to my GF was that it will be more quiet so I cant afford it to be a loud as hell, at least not for the first few weeks wink.gif

Anyway thanx for the help guys. I'll think about the suggestions. Perhaps if I'll have to redo the GFX card I can wiggle in close enough to that pump as well to at least loosen the screws slightly more. At some later date when I have bit more time can also move the filling T-line to the inlet port as its currently at the outlet.
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Minor update. I'm happy to report that the pump that did the grinding noise somehow managed to get quiet on its own and can now run at up to 12V without chewing my ear off. As far as GPU goes I managed to remove the waterblock without taking my loop apart, notice that I had "please remove before use" sticker still on it, remove it, reapply the paste and then after about hour of acrobatics and droppin the screws, springs n nuts all over the place and hunting for them between wires I managed to reattach the block and now the GPU is up to 45C under load with some OC (950MHz atm, which is not that bad for 6770).
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Minor update. I'm happy to report that the pump that did the grinding noise somehow managed to get quiet on its own and can now run at up to 12V without chewing my ear off. As far as GPU goes I managed to remove the waterblock without taking my loop apart, notice that I had "please remove before use" sticker still on it, remove it, reapply the paste and then after about hour of acrobatics and droppin the screws, springs n nuts all over the place and hunting for them between wires I managed to reattach the block and now the GPU is up to 45C under load with some OC (950MHz atm, which is not that bad for 6770).

...and it did not take 2 to 3 weeks to gid rid of that grinding noise. biggrin.gif You probably need an intake fan installed to take fresh air in. Looks like you have none. That's probably why your GPU temp underload is still not that low (mine's 32 C underload & I'm only using (2) small 120 mm rads to cool both the Core i7 2600K & a much hotter dual GPU Radeon HD 4870X2 video card). Next time also maybe get rid of those so many harddrives & just use maybe 2 to 4 large capacity harddrives. Using SATA backplanes have its limits. Most backplanes only support SATA 2.0 & its RAID controller sucks. Nothing can compare with that onboard controller of your motherboard particularly that of Intel. There's too much of a heat buildup using that so many backplanes. You could have use NAS or an external harddrive enclosure.

Now that case of your probably weigh a ton.biggrin.gif I can't imagine you bringing that to work everyday. Maybe just buy a laptop & remotely access your files.
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I work with rather large datasets so NAS is not that suitable for my specific purposes. Stuff like running MatLAB scripts that walk through up to about Tb of data and draw me some graphs so having the data available locally speeds up stuff significantly. In general yes, having NAS would be better as HDD's are heavy and I carry my rig around with me between work and home. About 700g a piece these add up a bit on the heavier side fast.

Have 3 intake fans. 140 mm 700rpm top and bottom and 120mm 1200rpm one at the back. The fans on SATA backplates (2x80mm and 1x 40mm) draw stuff out, however main reason for lowish airflow is that the case itself is relatively small (430x430x185) and PSU is non modular so well .. I have a lot of stuff in there getting in the way of free airflow. The radiator has 9x 120mm 1200 rpm ones but they are dragged down to about 800 rpm for keeping the noise levels reasonable. Oh and I do have also 1055T 125W version at a bit over 4 GHz in that loop, its not particularly golden chip so it needs 1.55V for that so I would say it probably puts also few hundred W of heat into the loop. The GPU block I have is not a real GPU block either, its a rather robust NB block so considering that it's not that bad I think. 45C is still pretty cool for a GFX card. Under air (it has 1 slot cooler) it was hitting 85+C under full load and small OC. I measured also the GPU RAM chips before and after putting heat sinks on them. At stock (1200MHz) without heat sinks they were about 62C and with heat sinks at 1375 MHz they were about 51C.
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Bu overall I'm just happy that the grinding noise went away. At least for now wink.gif Meaning I can wait when I have a bit more time for redoing the loop, as its currently quite a mess as a result of having to salvage what I had after finding out that the pumps makes the flow go the opposite of what I initially assumed it would.
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Just how much of storage are we talking here? There's almost limitless amount of NAS storage that you can get nowadays. You can also carry it with you on the go. The NAS below has 8 TB of storage. There's even more NAS that can store more TB of storage than just 8 TB.

LG Electronics N4B2ND4 NAS 4-Bay BD-RW 8TB
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You can also use a smaller 2.5 inch large capacity harddrive. You can use a hybrid harddrive such as Seagate's Momentus XT 750 GB hardrive. You can stuff (12) of those smaller drives in just (2) drive bays saving you lots of space.

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It's not the size that is an issue but access speed and latency. It's hard to beat HDD's inside your case in that regard with NAS, at least at acceptable price level. As most people in the world I'm also on limited budget and have to manage the resources I have to get stuff done in close to optimal way or at least reasonably. Now that my new case has a shoulder strap as well, however, the total mass of ~25kg is manageable. I have to carry it only about 100m max from the parking lot to my office anyway.

Edit: To clarify - I have approx 5 Tb atm as some of the disks are mirrored for some data redudancy as in the case of disk failure its smoother than using proper backup. Ofc its not a substitute for backups which I do weekly. The difference between having a crap day and Armageddon is often just the existence of a backup.
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I have heard that Alphacool have released new version of this res where the most glaring quality issues are supposedly fixed. Also, note the interesting information about pressure this thing can achieve - 6m water column with single pump is pretty good pressure for such a small unit.
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Carniflex.
Yes, those components...
The QA did worry me a little. Lots of silicon was left inside the back part of the res. - well, the new one I got. [When I say lots, I mean LOTS].
It actually meant that it got stuck in every part of the CPU block and that's the first time I decided to open it.
All grinding noises were gone as Alphacool released a new version of it and sent it out for free.
New O-rings were already supplied and shipped with my order, but were packaged separately.
I'm pretty confident that one pump has enough pressure (I had two, but uh... broke one)- anyhow, I was originally running two with it not working properly.
Pascal from AquaTuning said to me that they ran a 7 metre piece of tubing up the side of their warehouse from the bay-res. and one pump pushed up to 6 metres.
Enough pressure in my view.
The orientation of the back of the res. doesn't matter - I first thought this was the issue and that Alphacool had got it wrong; all the pics. on the web not being right.
But no, it seems to flow fine both ways for me - just the CPU block is the issue...
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