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I got at last around installing third pump into my loop using the plexi top. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I must say that with the plexi top you can hear high pitched whine at full 12 V. Mine is installed outside the case on top of external radiator which is attached to the side-panel behind the motherboard tray. Somewhere in the ballpark of ~9 V the DC-LT seems to be bearable noise wise with the plexi top.

I should probably also add that adding third pump did not have any meaningful effect on my temperatures so I must have been already near the optimal flow rate with 2 pumps on the 5.25'' bay res. I'm still around 35 C idle and about 65 C under load (25 C ambient) with 4.5 GHz i7-3820 at 1.32 V. Using 8/10 mm tubing, just CPU atm in the loop and 9x120 mm radiator but also many fittings, like uhh .. a bit under 20 perhaps. With couple bulkheads, quick disconnects, filter and temperature sensor in addition to the usual stuff.

Hey Carniflex, I've recieved a return email from Aquatuning and the new o rings are on the way. smile.gif

I keep hearing that QDC fittings are restrictive, Could this be an issue in your loop?

Can you post a few pics of your system pls.
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I keep hearing that QDC fittings are restrictive, Could this be an issue in your loop?
Can you post a few pics of your system pls.

Sure









Sorry about blurriness. Do not have my DSLR atm at hand so these are taken with my cheapish Chinese tablet. Ignore the white tape snippets, they are temporary holding the water temperature sensor wire out of the way until the display arrives on which I intend to attach it.

As far as quick disconnects go these are indeed quite restrictive as in a nutshell you are pushing your flow through a 3 mm diameter hole which is several centimeters long. And ofc to make sense you will have two of these. However, as my temperatures were not affected my any meaningful amount it must mean that I was already getting ~ 1 ... 1.5 Liters / minute with 2 DC-LT pumps on the 5.25'' bay res even with such restrictive elements in the loop. I must also add that quick disconnects are seriously worth it for me as their presence makes accessing the internal of the PC a lot easier as I can just remove the sidepanel with the radiator when I need to get behind the motherboard tray for some reason. Say, for example, to access the screws holding the HDD cages or whatever smile.gif
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Thank bud that looks impressive thumb.gif
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I will add that I'm relatively happy with the plexi top + DC-LT pump combo after running it for several weeks. It's relatively nice looking outside the case (at least for my tastes, ignore the rats nest of wiring, I will do something about it some hopefully in few weeks when vacation starts) and when running at lower voltage (~9V) then reasonably inaudible.




I'm hoping to also to get around testing performance with 1,2 and 3 of these pumps altogehter once I have slightly more time and get around adding 3 GPU blocks into the loop. Atm there is no performance difference whatsoever between 2 and 3 pumps with only CPU in that loop.
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Bringing back an older thread:

Whats the deal on these DC-LT pumps? Would I be better off with 2 of these for $60 or would I be better off with a single MCP 35x for $40 more? For a small matx build...........with the ability to possibly cool a i7 4770k and a pair of 780's with a single 180mm rad and a single 5.25" bay reservoir. No major OCing going on(possibly none).
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Bringing back an older thread:

Whats the deal on these DC-LT pumps? Would I be better off with 2 of these for $60 or would I be better off with a single MCP 35x for $40 more? For a small matx build...........with the ability to possibly cool a i7 4770k and a pair of 780's with a single 180mm rad and a single 5.25" bay reservoir. No major OCing going on(possibly none).

I'm not sure TBH as I have no experience with anything larger than these small thing. . That out of the way, if budget (and space) is not particulaly contraining I would probably go with MCP and down-volt it to run a some slow enough setting to be quiet.

Both setups have some advantages. Having a pair of DC-LT offer some form of redudancy as you have 2 pumps so if one fails you will still have second one providing some flow. And ofc you can just run them from fan header (and rev 2 has rpm wire also) so you can see when they stop. Also some mobos (that support controlling voltage of fan headers) let you have software control over the pumps. Downside is, that they are not as strong as MCP and at full rpm get a bit whiny.

Size wise, actually, I think the setups end up roughly the same if you are dealing with MCP vs 2x DC-LT - individual pumps can be smaller but you will still either use 5.25'' bay res (that has some issues, dont know if the complaints have been really addressed in the current revision of it, but rev 1.0 of 5.25'' bay res sucks for DC-LT pumps) or if you are using 2x plexi tops then if you take into account also fittings they are not all that small anymore, although on the positive side they are light enough to be mounted with just a piece of double sided tape somewhere.
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My single DC-LT pump has no problem cooling my server i3 2130 @ 4.2g,Gtx 260 (Gtx570 soon) at the present time even on 40*c days it won't go over 55*c



In your situation I'd go with a DDC/MCP 35x for some more performance.
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My single DC-LT pump has no problem cooling my server i3 2130 @ 4.2g,Gtx 260 (Gtx570 soon) at the present time even on 40*c days it won't go over 55*c



In your situation I'd go with a DDC/MCP 35x for some more performance.
That's what Im thinking too......do they make a single bay reservoir that will hold the 35x pump?

Also, you showed me that larger 200mm radiator..........would that allow me to delete the smaller 120mm radiator I was going to use on the exhaust fan port?I would prefer to just have an exhaust fan.

I would prefer to have just one radiator and one reservoir handle 2 gpu cards and the cpu if possible. The less radiators the better. I think that thicker 200mm radiator actually is larger than both the slim Magicool 180mm rad and slim 120mm rad. combined........not sure though. If it is, I just need to know what the max length is I can use for my 2 video cards. The system will be air cooled first and then will swap to water cooling on the fly, so the video cards will be bought first.

I know a 180mm radiator has more surface area than a 240x120mm radiator of the same thickness.........and a 200mm is larger than a 280x140mm radiator, again assuming same thickness. Question is, will it be enough for 2 gpu's and 1 cpu..........stock or mild OCing only.

I will be changing out the front AP181 fan to a more powerful AP182 fan from Silverstone. The 182 runs max'd at 2000rpm with 170cfm and 6.2mm H2O static pressure. So it will push a lot of air through the radiator which I assume is beneficial.
Edited by ZippyPinhead - 12/18/13 at 5:46am
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SuperServer.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
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Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
1 x 120G ssd,3 x 2tb WD Green, 1 x 300gb Veloci... External Win 10Pro 64bit Lg 27" 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G19 TT Q-Power 750w CM 690II Cyber Sniper 
Mouse PadOther
Razer Mantis (control) Custom Water Cooled 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 2700k Asrock Z77 Pro4-M GTX260 G.SKILL DDR3 1600 8Gb 
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Kingston SSD Western Digital  External Water Cooling 
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Win 7 Thermaltake 775 Modular Silverstone TJ08-E 
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Think Im gonna snag this: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16151/ex-blc-1119/Swiftech_Apogee_Drive_II_Pump_and_CPU_Waterblock_Combo_-_Sockets_115x1366_APD2-1155-1366.html#blank

Seems like it saves money(waterblock/pump combo) and space. Then I can get a cheaper reservoir. Probably one of the basic EK units.
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