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My 2010 Gaming rig - Upgrade Suggestion?

post #1 of 17
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Hi guys, i had a friend who helped me build a desktop gaming rig awhile back!

the spec were as follow

Intel Core i7 860 Processor LGA1156 2.8GHz 8MB Cache CPU
Corsair H60 Cooling
Gigabyte GA-H55M-S2H Intel LGA1156 HDMI
G Skill F3-10666CL9-4GBRL (2x4GB)
Hitachi 1TB SATA 7200RPM 32M
Sapphire ATI HD5770 1G GDDR5
Samsung 22X DVDRW Black SATA
Generic W54P 54Mps Wireless PCI Card
Thermaltake Chaser MK-I Full Tower
Gigabyte Superb 720W 120mm Fan Power Supply

just wondering what option i should be thinking or undergoing if i chose to upgrade?
due to the fact i want to upgrade the GPU to a 7xxx series but problem is their are PCIe 3.0 and my
mobo only supports up to 2.0 =( so now im not sure what to do if i want to upgrade the spec to abit you know
better than current with not as much money as building from scratch again which end up costing over $1000

what would you guys recommend?

Side note: i dont over clock on my parts, and yet do not intend to, only general use and want to play games with max setting or high setting
at this stage im able to play Skyrim with good quality on a 1920 x 1080 but i have to have AA and Anti-Alliasing both off and only have setting set to medium otherwise would drop alot of frame causing lag issue.

Thanks in advance. =)
post #2 of 17
what games do you plan on playing and is 1,000 your limit or what is your budget for a upgraded system. if your wanting a new system then you can use some of the components you have to cut cost.

even though Intel has just released the new Ivy bridge CPU you could go with a socket 1155 sandy bridge i5 or i7 CPU on a Z68 motherboard and will be just fine to help cut cost and will be be good for a couple years. I recently built a i5 2500k on a Z68 Asrock motherboard which will be good for me for a couple years and if I need to I could just upgrade my CPU and Motherboard when needed. As far as GPU you can get a 7850 and that will pretty much run skyrim at its highest settings @1080p.
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post #3 of 17
I'd upgrade mobo,cooling,GPU,and PSU..in that order
I noticed there's an Asus p55 for sale for $70 in the marketplace
of course that's just me..
You may want to do:GPU,mobo,cooling,PSU ..IMO.. most people would want a better videocard 1st :lachen.gif:
Oh..and add a small ssd for the OS

I bet your cpu can hang for another 2 years if you OC it to 4 :yessir.gif:

But wait..if you sell it on e-bay..you can probably get a SB cpu+mobo :lachen.gif:

My p55+cpu gets really good speed/framerates n stuff biggrin.gif

Maybe 1-3 fps less than 2500K @ 5GHz
Edited by Schmuckley - 5/6/12 at 10:03am
 
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post #4 of 17
You know that graphics cards are backwards compatible with pci e 2.0 right?
post #5 of 17
I love upgrade suggestions!

Since you got a solid CPU and don't plan on overclocking yet, I wouldn't even bother upgrading the mobo or the cooler. In my personal opinion, your most critical need to upgrade is the GPU mainly because you game at 1920x1080. And with the prices of these new GPU's you could definitely benefit from saving the cash by not upgrading the mobo or cooler yet. On an 5770HD you are stressed. You mentioned the 7xxx series AMD so I'm assuming you are an AMD kind of guy. The prices on those are dropping and your pci 2.0 IS COMPATIBLE AND WILL NOT BOTTLENECK. There isn't a game out yet that hits the limit of PCI 2.0. And even though you dont plan on overclocking, the 7970 is off the charts when overclocked a little, and it doesn't take much know-how at all to overclock that GPU. Just a thought. And by the time PCI 3.0 does show a benefit, you will already have the GPU in place and focus on upgrading the mobo/CPU. baby steps;)

Next i'd say throw in some upgraded RAM. That stuff is not too pricey at all and jumping to 16 gb is a nice sized upgrade. Again, just sets you up for a mobo/CPU upgrade down the road.

Your PSU is enough power to run your system. If you decide to get down with the GPU overclock, maybe tossing $100 into an 850 80+ rated PSU would serve your needs just fine. After selling your existing one, it would probably cost you all of $50.

The mention of adding a small SSD by Shmuckley is a solid idea and they are not too pricey at all now. Only issue would be reinstalling Win 7 on the new drive. Might be a minor headache and a call to Microsoft to get it to run. Win 7 loves to freak out when you swap mobo's and hard drives. Other guys here have more knowledge than me in that area.

All in all, you got a great setup and if you add an upgraded GPU and memory, you will have one serious toy to get you through next year's tax return. hahaha.
post #6 of 17
like some already said, i think you still have a very capable system. you said you dont plan to OC but it is really a good idea to learn how to smile.gif

my upgrade vote goes to videocard and ssd first. i think the combination of those two will really give you a good performance boost. ocing your cpu comes next if you feel you can handle it. then ram, just get a better ram but staying at 8 gb is fine. i'd probably upgrade psu last. i think that should still serve you well.
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post #7 of 17
SSD:
If you install your OS and boot programs like antivirus on an SSD it'll reduce your boot time significantly as well as general working and gaming. You're lucky, the price in SSD's just significantly dropped so you'll be getting a better bang/buck. For brand names, I highly recommend Intel drives which are pretty expensive, or Crucial. There are other good brands like Corsair, OCZ, or Samsung that will give you a good bang/buck as well. I personally also like Adata drives. They're very fast and give a really good value and build quality with it, even if they are less popular.

PSU:
You do not NEED to upgrade your PSU, but I would recommend upgrading to a better brand like SeaSonic. Your current one will run at around 600W on average, it only has a peak of 720W. Also it isn't modular which I find to be a huge help with aesthetics and airflow. It also has 3 12V rails which is not good at all for a PSU with that low of voltage. If you have a PSU rated for 600W then you should definitely have only 1 12V rail to power everything. The reason more rails is bad is because it essentially splits your power distribution into 3 sections, like having 3 200W PSU's. You can't power certain GPU's with only 200W so I highly recommend you upgrade to a SeaSonic or Corsair PSU (There are others that are manufactured by SeaSonic as well) that has 1 12V rail, is modular (doesn't need to be fully modular) and is rated around 700-800W.

GPU:
The fact that your motherboard only supports PCIE 2 will barely change performance at all with a 7k GPU. Your mobo/CPU can be changed simultaneously later on since you really don't need it now. I would try to focus most of your cash in the GPU and try to spend about $100 for an SSD and $100-150 for a PSU. I'm not sure what your budget is exactly so I can only give you rough estimates of price. If you tell me an actual budget I'll give you more info.
Edited by theloneplant - 5/6/12 at 12:24pm
post #8 of 17
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whoah! so many information / suggestion to take in, THanks you guys!!! haha

well lets see first off to clear things up, my budget for this minor upgrade will be roughly around $350?
due to the fact i previously not long ago upgrade my rig with H60 cooling instead of one of those stock intel fan..lol glad to get rid of that =]
um. upgraded to 8GB since thats the maximum i was told my MOBO can handle at this stage unless i buy a new MOBO.


sorry if i dont answer all of you im gonna try answer all of you in one go lol
well

1. i didnt knew the 7xxx series PCIe 3.0 will work on my mobo 2.0 due to the fact one of my mate told me it wont work so no point in getting those graphics card unless i get a new mobo.
2. Next in line mod im thinking of modding my rig is GPU first, follow by another 2TB HDD + SDD for man OS to boot etc, then lastly PSU

note: those are the 3/4 things im going mod within this year, due to the fact with my PSU i dont know if its me or not, i have one of those fan control, to have all the fans on min, but if i push them all on high, my comp shuts it self off. T.T so yer friend of mine told me maybe its the PSU about to hit its lifespan? so who knows have to see what happen.

3. with GPU at first i was thinking of getting the

MSI GTX560 TI 2G GDDR5 Twin Frozr II OC
Internet Price: $300.00

Note again: im not a fan or AMD or Nvidia, to me as long they can produce the result i want like good gaming experience with high setting or ultra whichever im happy =) im not as hardcore as my friends who have like 3 GPU all connect together running like a beast hahah im still noob with comps unfortunately =(

btw, i dont do online shopping hence my budget are tight, the places i get my stuff from is kinda like online where u look them up, order it then it gives you this code so u can go and pick it up at their local shop ( www.umart.com.au) thats where i get all my stuff from.

i think i got everyone ones question answerd if not let me know lol. xD

anyway im happy with my lil machine still just concern with the fact my GPU and the whole 3.0 will run on my 2.0 mobo or not haha and will my PSU be enough to power it and stuff..
post #9 of 17
For a $350 budget I would skip the PSU upgrade and only get a new SSD and drive the rest of your cash into a GPU.

For an SSD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211588
This is performance on a budget, you will get a lot of mileage with this drive for how little you pay for it.

This leaves about $250 left for a GPU.

AMD GPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102987
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121623
If you can find an unlockable 6950 2GB card, get it. Price for this used card range anywhere from $150-230 and will give you some of the best bang/buck out there right now.

Nvidia GPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130683
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130623 The 1GB model, quickly becoming outdated for modern games as 2GB is now the norm. If you plan on using multi monitors get at least 2GB.
Or wait and see what the new generation prices will be like.
post #10 of 17
Thread Starter 
Sweettt looks like its a SSD and gpu first then lol

A quick question with hard disk these day there are either sata ll or sata lll are their backward compatible with my sata l mobo?
Thats one thing that confuses me the most =\
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