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post #11 of 32
5/6/12 at 12:06pm
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Ok could someone check if my metals are wrong?
I have BP fitting, a RX360 a MCR320XP a raystorm a killkoil and a phobya balancer 250 black nickel.

Is there any copper in the loop that touches water and the nickel? Under standard conditions the nickel can have a tendency to oxidize (so your nickel may be pitted). also, metal oxide formation may possibly be promoted in the water. Copper oxides tend to be red or black (but other copper compounds form a blue-greenish color); nickel oxides tend to be greenish (more so than coppers).

EDIT: http://www.jim.or.jp/journal/e/pdf3/50/11/2557.pdf

Basically, they point out that copper in steel can form "green rust" especially if the water happens to be oxygenated.

EDIT 2:

One way to help the situation is to prepare your distilled water by heating it to near boiling for some time. Then let it cool down. This will produce reasonably oxygen-free water as long as you get it into your loop soon after cooling.
Edited by Quantum Reality - 5/6/12 at 12:09pm
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post #12 of 32
5/6/12 at 12:07pm
Yeah that looks like flux + oxidation to me as well. Should always thoroughly clean your radiators before use. They are notorious for gunking blocks up. To clean that I would recommend a small toothbrush with water + vinegar combination. Might want to let it sit in the water+vinegar for a while as well.

Be sure to completely wash it with distilled after using vinegar on it.
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post #13 of 32
5/6/12 at 12:09pm
My rasa looked like that, I personally just let it sit in ketchup for about a few hours and it came out brand new.
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post #14 of 32
5/6/12 at 12:14pm
It will also help if you can heat the water in a Pyrex container - something that won't leach out into the water as it's heated. Failing that, stainless steel is probably OK.
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post #15 of 32
5/6/12 at 12:57pm
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bah i use distilled / antifreeze 50/50 mix with bout 2 ounces of reline water wetter and my systems always comes apart looking brand new. forget them premixes and such.

Like in good old days!
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My rasa looked like that, I personally just let it sit in ketchup for about a few hours and it came out brand new.

Ketchup works, so does coca-cola.
Edited by DirectOverkill - 5/6/12 at 1:00pm
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post #16 of 32
5/6/12 at 1:09pm
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Is it safe to let a solution of 50/50 water and vinager sit in the radiator? I have already done a few shakes with the mix, and now its there sitting, how long can i wait?
Will the radiators get some discoloration? Can i wash them with some distilled in the outside to remove some dust?
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post #17 of 32
5/6/12 at 1:10pm
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bah i use distilled / antifreeze 50/50 mix...
Yeah! I am right there with you as this exactly. wink.gif
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post #18 of 32
5/6/12 at 1:14pm
IIRC the reduction of copper with vinegar takes ~5 min when doing quite a few pennies. So 10 min is probably ample, especially if you've been agitating the mixture, Rinse off the vinegar with plain water, though, and use lots! A final rinse with distilled, and you'll be good to go when you refill that loop (with oxygen-free water!)
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post #19 of 32
5/6/12 at 1:28pm
That is oxidation. Just soak it in lemon juice for 2 hours then rinse with distilled
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post #20 of 32
5/6/12 at 1:30pm
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IIRC the reduction of copper with vinegar takes ~5 min when doing quite a few pennies. So 10 min is probably ample, especially if you've been agitating the mixture, Rinse off the vinegar with plain water, though, and use lots! A final rinse with distilled, and you'll be good to go when you refill that loop (with oxygen-free water!)

Ten minutes ?? People are advising a few hours!
But again is ths amount safe for a radiator and the block? That won't harm the paint or the fins?
Edited by douglatins - 5/6/12 at 1:32pm
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