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I'm ordering a Vertex 4 128gb today, OCZ gets way too much hate. Their ram was great, I still use a PSU by them and I've never had any problems. Haters gonna hate, and I think I'll be getting a great drive tongue.gif

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until the BSOD bug was fixed.
Quasi fixed. Many still get weekly BSODs despite firmware updates, secure erase, fresh OS install, etc. Fewer complaints now than Fall 2011, but problems continue for some.
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I guess I should have been more specific. Yes they can back the data to USB disks, but the actual creation of the bootable recovery disk that reapplies the image to the drives appears to only be CD-DVD based. Unless I am reading it wrong, neither will let you use a USB stick/drive for the bootable recovery disk which seems kinda silly.

I don't know what you're talking about (and yeah you're reading it wrong for both programs):

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All those on OCZ side.
Explain how a SSD can fail within 3 weeks on low usage.
I didn't bother to send it back for RMA. For me they killed my PC passion, they sold me something very expensive and I was a simple tester who got a lemon.
I will buy a real SSD fomr samsung or intel when I think it's the time to go a good brand and a good working product.

I've had many ASUS boards die on me...However, I'm not going to go in threads and bash ASUS for a problem that is decidedly gone. I used to, but I grew up and realised that all products will have problems at one point. My Force 3 is also doing perfectly fine in my laptop.
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You just don`t get it or don`t want to DuckieHo:
OCZ with their drives had MUCH more BSODs, drives that died, etc than all the other drives.
Samsung, Intel, Crucial, Kingston, all of them much more reliable drives than OCZ. The Samsung bug and the Crucial bug isn`t even remotely close to the complete mess Sandforce was.
And no, Intel have not resolved the Sandforce bug completely. If they say that, its a lie, a marketing lie. They still *occasianally* get the traditional BSOD bug due to the firmware still not patched fully, but its improving.
End of discussion. Still don`t want to believe me, go read customer satisfaction ratings etc. I have studied tons of them. I have even done a huge a thoroughly statistic investigation of all SSDs in the market. Well almost every single one of them. OCZ was dead last in reliability
And I am done with this discussion. Good day.

DuckieHo gets it far better than you. I cannot honestly believe the amount of people I've seen shot down by him, so to speak.

The Samsung bug wasn't as much of a mess because..Not as many people have Samsung SSDs? And the Crucial bug wasn't a mess because Crucial was writing the firmware, so they could concentrate on fixing it asap. Sandforce is fine. For every BSOD giving Sandforce drive, there will be 10 or more that are fine. This is how the rumours of bad AMD drivers started too...A few people got problems, people running other cards without experience of AMD started spreading it, etc.
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Also, regarding the 25nm ssd's sold as 34nm, I don't really care if OCZ started using 25nm NAND. AS LONG AS IT WAS PROPERLY LABELLED, what they did was prey on consumers by changing the internal parts of their products without informing the public. This would be akin to Intel switching their Sandy Bridge line of CPUs over to a 45nm architecture (less efficient and needs more power) without informing anyone. Would you be angry if you bought an i7-2600k and received something that overclocked and ran similarly to an i7-920? Yes, of course you would, why does the same not apply to SSD's?
I hope that we can agree that OCZ is a bad company with shady business practices and no respect towards the consumer.

...Except there's absolutely no benefit to going back to 45nm on CPUs. What did going to smaller NAND cause? Slower performance (Because you can totally notice the slight difference, right?) and fewer hours (Oh no! Now I can only have 8000 cycles!)

Yawn. My M4 is running 25nm NAND and has only gone through 2 full cycles in half a year. That's including reinstalling the OS twice.
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To be fair, both of these issues were fixed very quickly, in fact in a matter of days in the case of the Samsung. I'm trying to remember if Crucial's fix had side effects or not, though, I thought I read that it did.

No side affects on my 0309 M4.
    
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I don't know what you're talking about (and yeah you're reading it wrong for both programs):
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Ah, good to know ACronis can do it. I will get that program then. I installed Macrium and it only allows CD boot-able creation.
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I actually just ran a windows backup to an image file on my 500Gb hard drive and then used a recovery disk to put everything back on my raid 0 config. Idk if that will be easier for you.
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Ah, good to know ACronis can do it. I will get that program then. I installed Macrium and it only allows CD boot-able creation.

Yeah, sorry there is a specific way to create a bootable USB for Macrium. I just been doing it for so long I felt it was part of the program. tongue.gif

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I have a Vertex 3 and I'll never buy from OCZ again. "Firmwaregate" and their blatantly garbage customer service is what did it.

OCZ was condescending and disrespectful to customers having problems right from the beginning:
  • Implied we were drama queens that were imagining all these problems
  • Implied we didn't know how to properly "setup" and install Windows
  • Then they told us everything was "fine"
  • Then it was about "bad" SATA cables
  • Then it was again not knowing how to configure our systems
  • Then it was about not following their time-consuming 50 000 steps they gave us that never worked for 99.9% of us
  • And then when we complained about being given contradictory messages they would censor us, give us warnings, or threaten to ban us
  • All the while they labelled it an "issue that affected 1% of the drives" and diverted the blame to mobo manufacturers, Intel, BIOSES, overclocks, RAM, psu's, other components, and anything in the name of damage control
  • When confronted about any of this staff and mods would delete people's posts, give them warnings, threaten to ban them, send their Vertex 3 complaints OUT of the Vertex 3 forum and into the "Complaints and Suggestions forum" where nobody even further gives a crap
  • And then FINALLY, after making users suffer for many months, they admitted it was THEIR fault the ENTIRE time and that there was a bug in the firmware which caused all those BSOD problems

OCZ customer service was TERRIBLE!!!

I will never buy from them again....
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Yeah, sorry there is a specific way to create a bootable USB for Macrium. I just been doing it for so long I felt it was part of the program. tongue.gif
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Ah sweet thanks I will give it a try.

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I have a Vertex 3 and I'll never buy from OCZ again. "Firmwaregate" and their blatantly garbage customer service is what did it.
OCZ was condescending and disrespectful to customers having problems right from the beginning:
  • Implied we were drama queens that were imagining all these problems
  • Implied we didn't know how to properly "setup" and install Windows
  • Then they told us everything was "fine"
  • Then it was about "bad" SATA cables
  • Then it was again not knowing how to configure our systems
  • Then it was about not following their time-consuming 50 000 steps they gave us that never worked for 99.9% of us
  • And then when we complained about being given contradictory messages they would censor us, give us warnings, or threaten to ban us
  • All the while they labelled it an "issue that affected 1% of the drives" and diverted the blame to mobo manufacturers, Intel, BIOSES, overclocks, RAM, psu's, other components, and anything in the name of damage control
  • When confronted about any of this staff and mods would delete people's posts, give them warnings, threaten to ban them, send their Vertex 3 complaints OUT of the Vertex 3 forum and into the "Complaints and Suggestions forum" where nobody even further gives a crap
  • And then FINALLY, after making users suffer for many months, they admitted it was THEIR fault the ENTIRE time and that there was a bug in the firmware which caused all those BSOD problems
OCZ customer service was TERRIBLE!!!
I will never buy from them again....

I remember that. I was one of the first people with the Vertex 3 to install it and start getting BSOD's after setting the drive up. Before I upgraded firmware there were zero BSOD's after firmware BSOD's happened all the time. I basically said on the forums I was 100% certain it was the firmware, and OCZ said naw to this and that, some other problem. They swore up and down for weeks it was impossible that it was the firmware. It was quite hilarious. Then a few weeks after that they said, woops, it is the firmware. They looked pretty stupid and had hundreds if not thousands of people running in circles with worthless checklists, fixes etc. I never did any of that crap as I knew it was the firmware.

Granted, once they fixed the firmware my Vertex 3's ran fine ever since. But ya that was some pretty poor customer service. You know, myself knowing it was the firmware the whole time I just sent back the upgraded firmware drives that were BSOD'ing and they sent me two drives back with the original BSOD firmware so it didn't impact me much simply because I kept one step ahead of OCZ's crappy tech support. So given that my V3's ran fine and the new V4 firmware makes it the best SSD IMO, I went with the V4 for my new raid setup.
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