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[TorrentFreak] - Judge: An IP-Address Doesn’t Identify a Person (or BitTorrent Pirate)

post #1 of 31
5/7/12 at 8:38am
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A landmark ruling in one of the many mass-BitTorrent lawsuits in the US has delivered a severe blow to a thus far lucrative business. Among other things, New York Judge Gary Brown explains in great detail why an IP-address is not sufficient evidence to identify copyright infringers. According to the Judge this lack of specific evidence means that many alleged BitTorrent pirates have been wrongfully accused by copyright holders.

Well this is an interesting plot twist...

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post #2 of 31
5/7/12 at 8:44am
My faith in the judicial system's ability to recognize, or at least not totally ignore, the completely obvious has moved one step closer to being restored.
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5/7/12 at 8:49am
Theres a glimmer of hope maybe?
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5/7/12 at 8:49am
I couldn't see how you could rule any other way on this. What would the ramifications be otherwise... Howard Schultz gets sued for me torrenting at a starbucks?
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5/7/12 at 8:53am
That's a win for sure. Finally the judicial system is realizing IP addresses are not the end-all be-all of an internet connection.

Thank god for that.
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5/7/12 at 8:55am
Excuse my ignorance in how IPs work, but are they, the IP addresses, owned by the ISP? I mean, I understand that all computers have IPs, but is the IP address I use to connect to my ISP owned by them or myself?

If it by the ISP, wouldn't that mean all the lawsuits should go against the ISP, just like parking tickets go against the car owner, not necessarily the person who parked the car? Wouldn't the ISP be the responsible ones then to what ever was downloaded on their network? Seems like this would greatly curve the lawsuits, as the ISPs would have a much larger purse to fight off these flimsy claims.

Course, I could see the ISP getting really strict and restrictive in what you could do on their network then too. Nevermind then, I'll just try and play it safe. whistle.gif
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5/7/12 at 9:02am
hmmm interesting. before we know it we will all be handed a personal ip address tied to our bodies
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5/7/12 at 9:16am
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Excuse my ignorance in how IPs work, but are they, the IP addresses, owned by the ISP? I mean, I understand that all computers have IPs, but is the IP address I use to connect to my ISP owned by them or myself?
If it by the ISP, wouldn't that mean all the lawsuits should go against the ISP, just like parking tickets go against the car owner, not necessarily the person who parked the car? Wouldn't the ISP be the responsible ones then to what ever was downloaded on their network? Seems like this would greatly curve the lawsuits, as the ISPs would have a much larger purse to fight off these flimsy claims.
Course, I could see the ISP getting really strict and restrictive in what you could do on their network then too. Nevermind then, I'll just try and play it safe. whistle.gif

Not all ISP's are huge corps with deep pockets. We use a local ISP at work that leases the physical line from a large DSL corp.
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5/7/12 at 9:22am
IP's are more like your zip code: I could use your ZIP to send threat letters, run scams and snatch my relevant responses from your mail box and have you take a fall if there's any legal investigations.

edit: wrote ISP instead of IP, silly me ...
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5/7/12 at 9:48am
This just in:

PEOPLE AREN'T NUMBERS

And just like that everyone's mind was blown. thumb.gif
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