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V4 easily. Fast and reliable!. 5 year warranty
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My preference currently is Plextor M3 Pro -> Cosair Performance Pro -> Crucial M4 -> Vertex 4.

My opinion of Vertex 4 changed after I saw this:
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4712/ocz_vertex_4_128gb_solid_state_drive_review_with_1_4_r6_firmware/index9.html

The AS-SSD scores was usually a reliable way to determine; which SSD is good at incompressible data but that has changed now after Vertex 4 was released with the latest Marvell controller. The latest Marvell controller doesn't seem to scale in overall performance as the old Marvell controller?

Nevertheless Vertex 4 has genuine sequential write speeds that wont be limited to compressible data like Sandforce but also incompressible data with added endurance and 5 year warranty. (possibly recommended-able for media editors?)
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4712/ocz_vertex_4_128gb_solid_state_drive_review_with_1_4_r6_firmware/index11.html
Edited by tumbirs - 5/11/12 at 10:07pm
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I wouldn't exactly put all my faith into Vantage scores either.
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For a moment I doubted AS-SSD, then I checked the access time and found out that Vertex 4 used Intel Synchronous NAND over Toshiba Toggle NAND and the latency increased from release firmware at 0.04ms to 0.13ms on latest firmware.
Edited by tumbirs - 5/18/12 at 9:06am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RealEyes View Post

how are you guys getting a better score than me?
OCZ Vertex 4
AMD Phenom II X420
8GB RAM
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338

The more filled a harddrive gets, the slower it is.


I think...
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It's actually ACHI in bios; with the Intel SATA port with Intel RST that gives it a boost.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1257621/help-with-low-vertex-4-128gb-speeds-z77-3770k

I remember someone posted Vertex 4 benchmark with half full SSD and had the same score as clean.
Edited by tumbirs - 5/15/12 at 9:13am
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I would like some confirmation on this. I have heard it mentioned several times on the forum that ssd's slow down the more full they get, anyone ever tested this theory? I've been trying to keep mine less than half full just in case it does wind up being true.
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post #28 of 37
Half populated vertex 4 and with good results.
Here is the link:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1254237/holy-vertex-4-firmware-over#post_17186511
Edited by tumbirs - 5/16/12 at 3:45am
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I decided to go with the crucial m4 128gb, the price at NCIX was just too good to pass (120$). It came with the 0309 firmware updated.

It didn't come with a 3.5 adaptator bracket though frown.gif Should i buy an adaptator or just let the SSD loose in my PC ?
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post #30 of 37
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Originally Posted by mingqi53 View Post

Can't necessarily say that. Vertex 4 doesn't use Sandforce, it uses Indilinx firmware with a Marvell controller, which makes it essentially a super-duper M4.

While there is considerable misinformation about what actually constitutes the everest 2 platform, I am personally aware that the marvell controller in the v4 is not the same controller as the M4, and since the firmware also has nothing to do with the m4's firmware, such a connection or transference of any characteristic of the m4 to the v4 is quite a leap. I imagine many sandforce customers are well aware of the benefits of good, optimized, well tested, well verified firmware (Intel's 520 anyone?) since they had unreliable drives for 3+ months with the first few firmware releases and then better results over the last few months with only a firmware change.

I know every ssd maker has some historical warts (the predecessor to the m4 had a LOT of issues and the m4 itself was a little creaky out of the gate) but OCZ seems to lay an egg with every generation. I had a vertex 2 plus hose me for a week on a new build because it kept corrupting its data and OCZ kept telling me I had a bad drive, yet there were thousands of people with the same firmware related issue I had. Given that they were working on a fix for the very same problem I was experiencing, telling me I had a bad drive and should mail it to them at my own cost ($12) to receive a used drive with the same bad firmware wasn't really very good customer service. Then the vertex 3 had serious corruption problems, like most sandforce drives with the older firmware.

Since drives like the m4, samsung 830 and intel 520 offer excellent performance and at this point quite good reliability, I'd need a serious specific application requirement that called for a specific area of performance that some other drive addresses better. An unreliable drive regardless of how fast it is generally isn't a good value proposition for the vast majority of users.

Besides, some of the benchies on the v4 aren't that great.
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